[Matra et Alpine]

Originally Posted by Batmobile_Turbo

even though i like jaguar more than BMW, i'll have to go with the BMW becaus i heard that the Jag S-type is kind of crappy.

You heard wrong.
It is everything an exec saloon needs to be and some more.
Not enough to drag me away from my Alpine, but the day will come when I'll have to wear a bunnet - just before I get a Volvo :-)

Except the kiss of death is that Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson reckons it's better than the BMW.
That'll destroy sales for Jaguar :-)