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Originally Posted by thatdbeme

I have heard of the avalon, which wasnt very successful, however you said that 'every' six they have released has failed.

If your looking for some discussion on how they link F1 to the development of the aurion then go to the aurion website.
F1 is a marketing program that Toyota use worldwide. That is why they enter F1, so they can use it to hype up their cars, but you can also expect them to gain some engineering knowledge from it for use in road cars. Not a lot in a family car, but some. They are entitled to dumb it down in TV ads if people will buy it.

Holden and ford are at least equally as dumb. I dont pay much attention however what was that commodore ad said recently? something along the lines of 'the most exciting car ever'?? come on its not exactly a veyron, lambo, ferrari (or whatever your lottery car is)

The difference is, the Avalon was targeting Commodore and Falcon, whilst Camry was more of a midsize challenger, never aimed at large cars.

Toyota can scream F1 all they want. I would be happy if their ads actually outlined this supposed F1 input, but instead they market the whole car - chassis and all - as F1 technology. Japanese Camry F1 FTW!!

Ford and Holden have their fair share of TV advertising garbage, but they don't go nearly as far as Toyota. Trying to make V8 Supercars (AUSTRALIA's most loved motorsport division) look crappy is not only a dumb move, but something I won't forgive. Holden's claim isn't completely crazy, as they didn't say "THE" most exciting cars, they said "ONE OF". And benchmarking against BMW and Merc is a testament to this.