[Clivey]

Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine

If you make every attempt, then it won't limit your liberties at all ... it will never switch on for you !
The only ones who it limits are those who try to break the law.

Peter, Peter...it's obvious you skip-read. I'm a law student, therefore I think like a law student. I used the phrase "in urban and residential areas" - I don't "speed" in those areas; I never mentioned any other (country roads, motorways etc.).

In fact, I do "speed" on country roads, motorways and the like, when I feel it is safe to do so and I'm in the mood for "enthusiastic" driving, as I'm certain that you and the majority of drivers do.

I simply don't want any "nanny device" limiting my decision-making capabilities or my "playtime" any further. If I were limited to 70mph on Motorways there'd be nothing to do but steer and I'm betting there'd only be more accidents as a result of people getting bored or falling asleep! We're already suffering from allowing drivers to become too detached from the driving experience to be properly in control of the vehicle, all this would do is make the situation worse!

Add to that the probability of us drivers being forced to pay for said "nanny devices" to be installed in our cars, and can you truthfully say you'd support such a system?

Furthermore, do you really think that the future of personal transport should be "limited"? Surely the future should dictate that we should arrive at our destination quicker? How are we going to do that if we pander to ancient, impractical and unworkable laws?

Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine

Are you saying that law-breakers should retain ALL of their civil liberties -- ie freedom, money etc etc no fines ? no points ? no prison ? no consequences ??

I don't know whether you realise, but you've opened a MASSIVE can of worms regarding enforcement of every law, no matter how inappropriate it is. - An ancient by-law in Derby (my home city) actually states that throwing banana skins is illegal (no joke!), so anyone throwing one into a bin for example, should in theory be found guilty of a criminal offence and "lose their civil liberties". And yes, that's just as lame as being convicted of speeding for travelling at 80mph on an empty dual carriageway.

So to answer your question: "It depends on the law in question."

There are probably plenty of other extremely important reasons, which I haven't so far covered, why restricting vehicles to the speed limit on every single road is a bad idea. I mean: What would YOU do with your RX-8 or A610? It'd be like having a dick but never being able to use it!