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Originally Posted by henk4

another thread that goes to show what -what- says, can better be ignored.

Ya know, sometimes I wonder why it is so difficult when one has nothing useful to say or to ask a question, to just refrain from posting. I mean really, how do you see your purpose on this forum? I see that you are a supporting member, but in all honesty I am failing to see any traces of support. But I sincerely thank you for your usual idiotic and negative contributions.

Originally Posted by RacingManiac

ever driven the "Minivan looking" new Civic? its a fantastic car, and easily the best product right now in that class....I also happen to think it looks better than its counterpart out there....

I have driven the Civic. It is a great car. The Civic is Honda's best car in my opinion, and it will no doubt sell a bunch. The 2-door looks nice, but the sedan...I don't like. .

Honda probably will not die in the near future, but Honda is missing on chances to be a DOMINANT manufacturer like Toyota has grown to be. Honda takes forever to update anything that isn't the Civic or Accord and Honda is just straight-up being lazy with Acura. This new Accord probably is fantastic to drive, but VISUALLY it may be a failure. ACCORD SALES HAVE SLIPPED!!! Does anyone else find this amazing? Sales have slipped from the previous year...THIS IS A REDESIGNED MODEL!!! Sales are supposed to JUMP!

Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine

Couple of comments
A very US-centric view of Honda ( likewise Toyota ? ) Perhaps an analysis of the inputs from the US design and manufacturing centres would be worth doing.
Honda UK Media Resource :: Releases :: Honda Breaks Global Sales And Production Records In 2007 compare US growth 3% with RoW
Which other manufacturers grew sales volume in the US ?

Honda don't need to do a "Prius" because they get BETTER consumption figures ( and real ones at that ) with their IC technology

Above all Honda is a BUSINESS - somethgin Ford and GM seem to have forgotten - and as such Honda concentrate on making a successful business. You don't like the cars they make ? Fine but you're in the minority for them. How many companies invested billios to develop new trucks, new SUVs, new ultra sportscars to see the return dwindle in the light of the market movements - taxation, legal limits and fuel costs.

If asked to predict which manfufacturers will be around in 20 years, Honda is pretty much top of my list !

I got to be honest about this, I don't enjoy your writing style. You post with such arrogance.

So you say it is smart of Honda to NOT invest into developing other types of vehicles? Why?..because of the RISK? Pfftt...typical of a Matra.

Back in the day, GM and other Americans blew off small cars because it was BETTER FOR BUSINESS (back then) to keep investing into their trucks. WHERE ARE THEY NOW. You never know how the market will change and PLAYING THE GAME SCARED ain't gonna get you to the top.

This isn't a game, this is business...right? Business is a game...to me. Honda is playing scared and/or playing dumb. Honda's cars are mechanically excellent...but underpowered. And in my opinion, Honda has by far the WORST DESIGN TEAM of ALL the major car manufacturers. The Accord Sedan looks like a Hyundai. Even Hyundai doesn't design their cars to look like Hyundais anymore.

Honda biggest flaw in my eyes is the lack of a decent RWD platform. Once again...HYUNDAI HAS BEAT HONDA TO THE PUNCH. RWD is looking to be a major part of the future. That fluke super-handling AWD bullshark they applied to the RL is not going to cut it. Honda needs RWD for themselves and for Acura.

I hate Acura. It is so half-assed.


By the way, what is Honda's "IC" technology? Whatever it is, it isn't winning HEADLINES. The Prius is. Electric is the future. Electric sells. IC? Never heard of it.