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Originally Posted by Ferrer

But that's not a problem of the layout. If GM fitted good economical engines to its Zeta offerings they could turn up good fuel economy. Downsizing could also help.

But mostly I agree woth you, front drive family car aren't going to return to rear drive any time soon.

RWD can definately be done economically, especially with alternative fuels like diesel or even going hybrid. I dont think GM have the provisions in place to tackle the economy targets bit by bit, perhaps as Ford plan on doing with their Ecoboost engines.

Originally Posted by SlickHolden

JD
where did you here about the downsizing is it for real??.. Moving back to the old days when the VB-VH were mid size but offered as family large cars.
I still say the VB was a good size of a car to have, I was always pretty comfy in it, And 2 big lumps in the back seat fit just ok, 3 was pushing it.

Well its just rumours coming from FAF.com, so take of that what you will. The consensus seems to be Zeta cant be narrowed for what Holden REALLY need, the platform was what GM needed for cars like GTO, Impala and Camaro. I dont think they'd go back to VB-VL size. Probably something like VZ wheelbase with smaller overhangs. It remains to be seen what happens, but most talk is it'll be done for the 2012 reskin.