
04-08-2008, 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by revetec
Come on.....The engine data images you posted were forced induction. (I assume the 1st one was even though I can't find data on it, the BMEP was 150?)
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Nope only the full map of the Mercedes-benz M271 is FI and it is supercharged (supercharging always decreases overall thermal efficiency). here is the wiki page for it:
Mercedes-Benz M271 engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The other two engines are the R26B Le-Mans winning 4 rotor rotary engine (not FI, it is NA). As well as the venerable Jeep 6-230 Tornado engine (also NA).
Here is the wiki for the tornado: Jeep Tornado engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Originally Posted by revetec
The first image you posted above - The R26B engine is a turbocharged quad rotor, rotary race engine. Post something that is normally aspirated and in production for consumer use for comparison.
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It is not turbocharged it is Naturally Aspirated. Also I posted those pics as just a sample to show that most of the stuff I have is about WOT BSFC not part throttle.
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Originally Posted by revetec
Note: The supercharged Mercedes engine's best BSFC was around 250g/kW-h. Our best was 17% better or 6.8% better in total efficiency at our peak and normally aspirated. Forced induction decreases the total percentage lost in pumping losses as apposed to power gains.
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First superchargers always decrease the overall thermal efficiency Second the graph show a relatively large patch which is 250g/kWh at the boundary. Peak BSFC is about 240g/kWh (34.09% efficient or only alittle under the 34.52% you achieved running stoichiometric, a good bit less than your 38.59% which you achieved running lean).
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