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It is ridiculous how many people are keen to either deride a car entirely because it doesn't have "enough" power/speed/acceleration - without providing a qualified definintion of "enough" other than "what everyone else has got", or similarly, simulate coitus with a car's tailpipe because it has top-trumps numbers, regardless of what the car is actually like when you do anything other than read the spec-sheet at it.
Given that they have ended up replacing much of the existing vehicle anyway, why not do something daring and crazy, like build another sports car, apart from the Corvette?[/quote]
and this is a good point-
i mean on sheer numbers the Gt-R is not better car, if the ring times are real and the usability of the car in all weather are what you judge by than the lower power GTR is better, if it is grip..
power? what is enough if you can't use it.
I would say the big GT always are "better cars" unless it is all out race, than the compromise must lean one way or another.
the Vantage, the 599 Fiorano, the Z06/Zr1, the 911Gt2,Viper, the Jaguar XKR, these are all better road cars than say a buggati or a saleen S7, or a mosler MT900, or even an enzo.
only because the defining idea is road and this connotes use and frequently
but i would think these are all over powered for a daily grind
the Lotus elise, the saturn sky/opel speedster/pontiac solstice, mazda miata, nissan 350 z the Holden Monaro,pontiac GTO...these are better everyday cars and they certainly are not poor on performance but what is the measuring stick really measuring a spec sheet? or real experience.
the fastest thing i ever drove has been a 99 viper at a race in road america
this car i could live with in the street, but at the time it had what 450 hp?
a 600 hp viper would be absolutely ludicrous and i see these and SLR, or SL65 AMGs all over and Pork GT2/ a GT3 now and again a F430
i also see these on wrecked exotics alot of people are dumb/crazy thinking they can handle more and more power and grip
especially in a very unpredictable surface as a public road with traffic.
The ZR1 is a great piece-
i hope they are used sparingly on the road and alot on track days where they belong. i would hate to see these wrecked
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