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Originally Posted by SupraMan22

As for the Si vs. TC.. If I can not beat, but hang around a SS HHR I'm pretty sure a Charged TC, at 170 hp bone stock, could take a Si with what 200 hp? I've been searching videos because it seems thats the only response people have to the Tc is how much better the Civic seems to be. Believe me if I had a close ratio 6 speed gear box instead of a loose 5 speed I'm sure work would be put on some Si ass. In reality, its cheaper and damn near as quick. Tc has more torque and close HP. Stock..

The thing is that the TRD Supercharger that Scion will install for you at the dealer will sit the TC on 200hp only. So a 200hp TC vs a 200hp Civic (granted it has less torque, but it also weighs less) ends up being an even race.

TC has 161hp stock btw.