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Old 05-22-2009, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by LeonOfTheDead View Post
...ok, I like the R-Klasse, that's true.
the point is, I don't see the grand tourer here. But even a Cayenne Turbo S has decent performance right?

let's even say the idea is good.
I'd prefer a Quattroporte estate (the Bellagio was actually quite good looking, and weights 40 kg less). Or something properly spacious, perhaps not an R-Klasse, but a standard minivan as was the Phedra.
now let's say the idea is good even in this shape.
The car is quite bad looking though. Apart from the X6-ish look, the rear isn't really sporty, and the front is far from the glamor of the CS concept (which I never completely liked, the front fascia I mean).

I see it as just an enlarged sedan. Once they did it, they though the boot wasn't as big as the dimensions were suggesting, so they went for the weird rear end. If it's suppose to be a gran tourer, it should weight a bit less. Even the Quattroporte which isn't particularly refined in this compartment weight 100 kg less.

It's surely more comfortable than a 5 sedan, but it's definitely less proportioned, without considering the specific details.
The problem with SUVs is their high centre of gravity (higher than this) and carrying all the excess weight of the off-road hardware (which this doesn't have).

The problem with normal full size MPVs is that none has a well honed rear drive chasis and a sublime twin turbo six, except perhaps the R-Class.

The problem with the Quattroporte is that it's less spacious for passengers than this, even the Bellagio estate version.

I agree thought that the 5er GT has its problems. It's not exactly the best looking car in the world. The boot/hatch complexity adds unnecessary weight. And it's probably a tad too big and heavy. But as a concept I rather like it.
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