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Originally Posted by fisetdavid26

Yeah, I remember your points against the GT series.

There's not one racing game I like without saying "yeah, it's great, but..." - all of them have issues IMO. I think the cars look unrealistic in FM2, for example, while I could easily spend 2 minutes looking at all the details of a car in GT5 Prologue's manufacturer showrooms. They even did the blue-purple-yellow 'rainbows' on titanium exhaust pipes for Christ' sake!

Yet FM2 seems more enjoyable to play. GT5 P on the other hand I can play with a clutch pedal and my H-shifter, thanks to the famous and fabled G25 wheel. They all have ups and downs.

As for the PS3 yes it is expensive, no it doesn't have much interesting exclusive games - yet, but it's still an epic bargain. An 80GB PS3 retails for $399 here, which is the same price as an Xbox 360 Elite with a game, Grand Theft Auto IV these days, but its Blu-ray player justifies its price tag. Most people don't realize Blu-ray players aren't like DVD players, they don't load movies straight away, your Blu-ray player has to load the disc, the PS3 can do it in a minute or two while I've seen some expensive Samsung Blu-ray players taking up to 15 minutes to load a movie, much to the embarassement of the poor salesman trying to talk about its merits.

Try to load a movie onto your gf computer's Blu-ray drive. Tell me how long it takes. It depends entirely on the speed of your computer. The PS3 is an incredible powerhouse, remember. It's fast.

EDIT: I took the liberty to change the thread title, as it's no longer relevant to the car list but rather to the game itself.

Sorry for hacking the thread in a way. I guess the discussion really should be in the GT5 thread I made earlier, but I guess whatevers.

Fanboy. But I do get your point, considering that I own one too.

Originally Posted by LeonOfTheDead

Will try a blu ray as soon as I'll get my hands on a copy, but thanks for the info, didn't know.

Here the 360 Elite comes for 280 €, so still 120 € off the PS3 price.
While I don't care that much about the graphics compartment as much as in the simulation, comparing FM2 to GT5 is a bit biased, FM3 should be the one me thinks.

I just can't justify myself spending 400 € for a console or even a blu ray player, as I don't have an HD 42" tv screen, a 1.000 € home theater and so on, I just enjoy playing games, about cars an other stuff.

So a 360 offers me the best trade-off, it's cheaper and has the games I like, a good car simulators, Ace Combat, among others.

I see where you're coming from too. I hate the fact that the PS3 dropped PS2 compatibility. It's a minor aspect, sure, but I have a couple games I haven't finished yet. Not that I can't boot up the PS2, but still, for $400, it should have it. Then again, Sony does build the PS3s at a loss.

I picked it up for cheaper than usual, but I still wouldn't have bought it at full price.

Originally Posted by LeonOfTheDead

but GT5 P is more similar to GT5 than to GT4 right?
Wait...FM1 was the competitor for GT4 right?
So FM2 should be a step above GT4, but I still think GT5P is using a lot of stuff (money and development) which will in the end go into GT5, hence my post.

Yes, it's supposed to be a big demo of what GT5 should be. It's pretty much an extended demo of GT5 to be honest.