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fa22_raptor
07-04-2005, 06:46 AM
... that only supercars and the like come with scissors and gullwing doors? Is there actually a technical advantage over conventional doors or is it the 'look-at-me-im-rich' factor? If there actually is a technical advantage, why aren't they on more cars? Maybe it's just for the novelty factor. Can someone please fill me in. Thanks. :)
CHEESE-TACULAR
07-04-2005, 06:50 AM
theyre on "pimped out" cars too...yo ;)
fa22_raptor
07-04-2005, 06:53 AM
Haha, I didn't add that one because on "pimped out" cars, they're clearly there for the bling, not performance. In fact, they probably make performance worse on those cars, where the doors haven't been integrated into the design.
gregvl52
07-04-2005, 06:55 AM
It's hard to get in such a low car, the doors (at least some of them) are designed to make it easier to get in and out, IMO the Enzo and Ford GT in particular with the roof cutouts. Also, the because there is so little room top to bottom, the doors tend to be long, and a conventionally opening door would take up a whole lot of room. That's what Koenigsegg says at least, and probably the same goes for Lambo.
fa22_raptor
07-04-2005, 06:56 AM
Oh ok. Thanks for that. :)
illusionest
07-04-2005, 10:15 AM
i think that is the same with the mercedes benz 500SL
the gullwing door thing...
Esperante
07-04-2005, 10:50 AM
On DeLoreans they were space conserving. Believe it or not, the gullwing doors on the DeLoreans required less room to open than a regular door.
ruim20
07-04-2005, 11:00 AM
i think that is the same with the mercedes benz 500SL
the gullwing door thing...
300SL :D
I personaly think all supercars must be unique and have a "look at me" objective as long as with the performace figures, thoose types of doors are made with the aestethic function in view but also like in the 300SL for practical reasons, becouse the chassis didn't allow a convencional type of door.
sleekeywoowoo
07-04-2005, 03:28 PM
... there is so little room top to bottom, the doors tend to be long, and a conventionally opening door would take up a whole lot of room. That's what Koenigsegg says at least, and probably the same goes for Lambo.
Yeah, The koenigsegg doors open up and forward for access in tighter situations and to take up less room. And plus they look cool as shit, never seen doors open like that on a car before. *If there is one i overlooked thats a production car can you tell me bout it?
And from what i remember, the Merc Gullwings doors opened like that because there was not enough room to fit a conventional door in so they needed to think of a way to put a door in. Wasn't there like a bar or sumthing running along the inside of the car on the side that made them not be able to do it[put a normal door in]? All i know is that it was something to do with the body that they had to keep.
A small technical disadvantage would be the inability to open your door to escape an overturned vehicle. Maybe an overturned, burning vehicle. But I've always been a pessimist :mad:
h00t_h00t
07-04-2005, 04:20 PM
You'd have trouble in a normal car too, especially if it rolled over the driver's side door. But then side windows break easily for a reason.
clutch-monkey
07-04-2005, 04:53 PM
And from what i remember, the Merc Gullwings doors opened like that because there was not enough room to fit a conventional door in so they needed to think of a way to put a door in. Wasn't there like a bar or sumthing running along the inside of the car on the side that made them not be able to do it[put a normal door in]? All i know is that it was something to do with the body that they had to keep.
it was something to do with the tubular chassis running around the car quite high up the wasteline i think, so yeah thats why they had the doors like that
ruim20
07-04-2005, 05:26 PM
Isn't it great when everyone skips my reply...
clutch-monkey
07-04-2005, 05:40 PM
Isn't it great when everyone skips my reply...
well, nobody listens to you... :D :p
nah, i completely missed your post, sorry mate
ruim20
07-04-2005, 05:44 PM
i was just feeling lonely :D
sleekeywoowoo
07-04-2005, 05:59 PM
yeah i missed that too...or i do what i always do,read the post,and forget some things by the end of them. Even if it is only a coouple sentences. sorry bud
targa
07-04-2005, 08:44 PM
as everyone has pointed out about the 300SL Gullwing, it was a chassie issue, the space frame for the coupe was made much more rigid then on the roadster version, this decision to make a much stiffer frame cause the doorsill to be raised to about knee level, there would have been room to make a convintional door, but it would have made the care a but less apealing when the doors were open, and removing part of the roof from the way of the drivers entry path didnt hurt either
as for the way they are being hinged now, as you see in the enzo, the entire side of the car opens up, and by the stature of the car, im sure its to make way for the driver