View Full Version : I want Aussie cars in America!
Classic Anycar
07-21-2005, 12:03 PM
Aussies get all of the recycled American cars. Falcon, Fairlane, Fairmont, & LTD are all former Fords. Caprice is a former Chevy name. The Falcon Ute is a Ranchero and the Holden Ute is basically an El Camino.
SlickHolden
07-21-2005, 12:17 PM
Hold your horse mate...
The falcon is Aussie it's been built here for so long and the fairlane fairmont LTD etc.
They arn't former fords they are fords but they have been designed and built here since Fryed chicken was in texas:D
Caprice is a name but the car is very Australian as is the Fairlane they are ford and holdens long wheels base models and are very Much there own models.
The holden ute a el camino LOL:p Way way off mate:D
All These Models are not recycled U.S cars. They are built designed and made only in Australia for around 30+ years These cars have a very strong history here and only here.:)
P.S you have a Aussie car there allready... The Pontiac GTO:D
Classic Anycar
07-21-2005, 12:19 PM
I meant former Ford & Chevy names. Especially the Fairlane. Ever heard of the Ford Thunderbolt?
SlickHolden
07-21-2005, 12:22 PM
Falcon yes but fairlane fairmont i don't know of anyone else that has had them to be honest. I don't know how long Chev had the Caprice?
But the utes are so aussie they make paul hogan look indian:D
The ford thunderbolt sounds a little familiar?
the first mustang was designed using the original falcon as a base so i think you have it the wrong way around.
As for utes they were invented by aussies for aussies!!!!
SlickHolden
07-21-2005, 12:58 PM
And as for names, What's in a name? it's a word only doesnt mean they are the same cause the names are:) There is someone out there with my name but we are worlds apart from being the same:)
The Falcon is called falcon cause back a guzzillion years ago when the U.S had it we did to as a import car? Built here? (KOS will know 100% this one). but as time went on the yanks stoped making it. This is when Ford OZ took control of it and it's now very much there own. The Ford U.S flicked it but Ford OZ keeped it
Classic Anycar
07-21-2005, 01:25 PM
Ford UK also has recycled US names. Galaxy (minivan) and Maverick (SUV) were formerly US Fords. I am not absolutely demanding them or Aussie Fords, I just thought it would be nice to have those names again.
SlickHolden
07-21-2005, 01:34 PM
But, Are you 100% sure they are names Ford.Us has used or they might be just FoMoCo names they have used all around the world? Remember Ford is ford in the U.S U.K Yoyangs so they really arn't a single country's name when your a global motor company.
Classic Anycar
07-21-2005, 01:45 PM
The following are the first years any of the Aussie & British Ford names were used in America.
FAIRMONT: 1978
http://www.cars-on-line.com/13300/67ford13332-A.jpg
FALCON: 1960
http://www.weirdstuffantiques.com/inventory/images/1960%20falcon.jpg
GALAXIE 1959
http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclecars/ford-galaxie/images/ford-galaxie-1959a.jpg
MAVERICK: 1970
http://www.maverickcometclub.org/pics/larry_mayberry_70.jpg
LTD: 1969
http://www.dannywhitfield.com/images/ITEM-8-B.jpg
FAIRLANE: 1955
http://199.239.248.45/images/full/2001/s2001081802/fd1955fairlane5701.jpg
FIESTA: 1978
http://www.carpage.hu/szeleczky/galeria/fiestavan2-2.jpg
Classic Anycar
07-21-2005, 01:48 PM
And now the others.
FUTURA: 1955 Lincoln concept
http://www.toyzine.com/sale/tin/lincoln_futura_lg.jpg
CAPRICE: 1965 Chevrolet
http://www.gacc.no/members_cars/620/Chevrolet-Caprice-65.jpg
SlickHolden
07-21-2005, 02:16 PM
The First OZ built Falcon was in 1960 also..... This website has some ford OZ history there.
http://autoweb.drive.com.au/cms/A_104688/newsarticle.html
1970 the Fairlane. Also LTD 1973.. Fairlane/Ghia...
1976 Fairmont we also have Fairmont/Ghia
The other names i don't know sorry.
SlickHolden
07-21-2005, 02:26 PM
The Ford Fiesta Germany Ford 1976... http://www.histomobile.com/1/Ford_Germany/1976/Fiesta_.htm?lan=2'
I don't know if we can say much about the batmobile:p
We didnt use the name Caprice till 1990.
I can't really understand the American fixation with badgewear, a la Pontiac GTO debacle. Yes, Oz cars have adopted many model names from overseas, like Commodore (Opel) Calais (Olds) Kingswood (Chev) Brougham (Cadillac) Statesman (Nash) etc, but usually the cars themselves are completely unrelated
Ranchero and the Holden Ute is basically an El Camino
Slick is right. The ute concept was invented here and the Holden ute has been around since 1951. Visually, the supposedly 'heritage inspired' Chevrolet SSR has more in common with a 1st-gen Holden ute than with any Chevrolet. In fact Australia was designing & building Chev utes decades before America 'invented' their 1958-on El Camino
The 1965 Ford Fairmont below was the 1st locally designed car to feaure standard disc brakes. THIS (http://www.carsales.com.au/cvr/7qmxpfsd.jpg) '65 Fairmont wagon is pictured outside our Prime Minister's official residence
http://www.fpv.com.au/upload/image/205_9x3x2002115602AM.jpg
Fairmont V8s like these pictured below (a '66 & '72) formed the basis of the great Falcon GT
Classic Anycar
07-21-2005, 06:29 PM
We have had the Commodore as well, as a Hudson.
http://www.4wheelz.com/hudson/commodore/hudson_commodore_1949_1.jpg
The Calais has also been used on Cadillac.
http://www.hubcapcafe.com/i/2002/hopkins/cady6701.JPG
You make a good point. Recycling names isn't all of it. One car could start a trend. For example, the Volkswagen leading to the Mini, 2CV & Cinqeciento.
fpv_gtho
07-21-2005, 09:39 PM
The Falcon is called falcon cause back a guzzillion years ago when the U.S had it we did to as a import car? Built here? (KOS will know 100% this one). but as time went on the yanks stoped making it. This is when Ford OZ took control of it and it's now very much there own. The Ford U.S flicked it but Ford OZ keeped it
Yeah, Ford Oz were looking at a new local car since 1957 and narrowed it down to the US Falcon compact and i think the European Ford Zephyr. They finally decided and June 28th 1960, the first Falcon was made in Broadmeadows, later going on sale in September. 1962 they started locally modifying and developing certain vulnerable areas of the car like the suspension and other areas, 1965 they done a major overhaul and ran the cars for 70,000 miles straight to prove they could stand our rough roads, before in '66 we finally redesigned the car whilst also having Mustang influences. When the US Falcon was dropped in the late 60's, the '72 Falcon became the first true Australian Falcon and since then its all history.
Holden on the other hand since starting as a coachbuilder and being taken over by GM have used US themes with Oz running gear, and recently switching to Opel bodypanels to reduce development costs.
P4g4nite
07-21-2005, 09:58 PM
OMG that ford Feista van is a classic pic.
The crappiest car I have ever seen and the guy driving it is like "I hate this f**king POS and I hate you, Mr photographer"
GOLD.
2ndclasscitizen
07-21-2005, 11:54 PM
no i dont think that guy would be saying anything. With his knees compressing his chest like that he'd be hard pressed to breathe
SlickHolden
07-22-2005, 10:22 AM
I really don't see the big problem over names? Ford OZ and Holden have the right to use FoMoCo and GM names as they see fit here.
2ndclasscitizen
07-22-2005, 06:13 PM
I don't really care, i mean GTO was nicked from ferrari, they're just words out of the dictionary
fpv_gtho
07-22-2005, 09:33 PM
I really don't see the big problem over names? Ford OZ and Holden have the right to use FoMoCo and GM names as they see fit here.
I think its different control over the patents or something that allows it. Its funny though, but Ford US tried to name the Fusion the Futura, but someone in the US was selling tyres under that name so they couldnt do it, whilst we're still quietly selling Falcon Futura's...
SlickHolden
07-23-2005, 11:56 AM
All them names could be back in the states if they used there noodles:p
Import the Fairlane-LTD-Statesman-Caprice..... etc:D Ford ute Holden ute make us all some extra money:D