What to get.

[The_Canuck]

Well im about 1.5 years away from being able to drive and im begining to think about what the first car i should get will be. ill probably get on when i'm about 17-18. and im asking you guys for some suggestions.

-all wheel drive is most preferable.
-good handling and brakes are also preferable.
-power dosen't need to be huge but somwhere around 5-7 0-60 is nice.
-must be solid built(damn salt and snow)
-and my budget will probably be no more then 7000 so the car can't be rare,or new

any way so i was thinking like a R32 but there hard to get, or mabye an audi? but i dont know to much about them. Wrx is another option thats up there, but what do you guys think? and no evos arn't availible here:D

[d-quik]

ehhh man you're kinda pushin it

[RazaBlade]

bloody hell....dont know where you live, but here in Britain, a good first car is a Corsa or Micra. Mentioning 'R32/wrx/audi' in the same sentence as 'first car' is absurd unless you are one loaded mofo.... insurance is a killer. 0-60 in 5-7?? Aiming a bit high me thinks!! Out of my mates, the best car is a Civic Type S....

[Zytek_Fan]

Subaru Impreza, BMW M3, or a Ford Focus...(all used)

[Vaigra]

A used Audi S4 :)

[Jakg]

lol, to insure a 1984 mini if i was 17 would cost £1200 3 rd party, but the mini only costs £350! and tbh, you are aiming waaaay too high

[Vaigra]

I don't think he is. First cars in the US are always somehow more extravagant than first cars here :p
I'd love for somebody to explain it to me :)

[clutch-monkey]

used teg type R?

[RazaBlade]

....First cars in the US...
explains it...

my mates first car in the US was a brand new Mazda 3...... lucky guy

insure a 1984 mini if i was 17 would cost £1200 3 rd party, but the mini only costs £350!
i know someone with similar figures quoted, his 205 cost £200, but the insurance was nearer £1500!!!

[Niko_Fx]

7000 CND and Audi, R32, WRX don't mix too well. If that's your budget then I suggest looking into an FWD econo.

If you still have 1.5 years to go you also have a lot of time to save though. Think about it :)

[NuclearCrap]

Subaru Legacy B4 should be good. :)

[Zytek_Fan]

Would you get discounts for good grades in school for insurance?

[DesmoRob]

if your budget is no more than 7thousand then I doubt you'll find something that is all those things that you need your car to be.

[Vindesh17]

He is aiming high, but I saw a 1991 Skyline R32 GTS-t for $11000 CND.

[Dan Flynn]

If you're worried about salt and snow, and want AWD, a used SUV might fit into your $7000 budget.
(7K for a first car? That's about 10 times what I spent for mine!)

[NSXType-R]

These are my picks-

A. Honda- CR-V, Fit/Jazz, Civic
B. Toyota- Yaris/ Echo, Rav 4, Highlander, 4Runner, Land Cruiser (maybe too fuel thirsty)
C. Mazda- 3 or 6
D. Nissan- Altima, Maxima or Sentra, Murano, Pathfinder, XTerra
E. Any Subaru (but they're not cheap)

Don't even think about American cars. They're not extremely reliable, at least compared to equivalent Japanese cars. German cars would be way past your budget.

[The_Canuck]

bloody hell....dont know where you live, but here in Britain, a good first car is a Corsa or Micra. Mentioning 'R32/wrx/audi' in the same sentence as 'first car' is absurd unless you are one loaded mofo.... insurance is a killer. 0-60 in 5-7?? Aiming a bit high me thinks!! Out of my mates, the best car is a Civic Type S....
you dont know where i live?! look at my name!!:D ontario to be more precise

[Zytek_Fan]

you dont know where i live?! look at my name!!:D ontario to be more precise
Early 90s BMW M3 may suit you. The best option would be to get a Subaru :D

[The_Canuck]

oh and to answer a few points, i think i can save 7000 in 3.5-4years mabye five. also an R32 was nice but like i said hard to find so i wasn't really considering it. plus how much would an audi from the early 90's cost in 4-5 years? you guys make it sound expensive. plus im sure a first gen Wrx cant be too bad. 0-60 in 5 well ok mabye not but ALOT of cars get there in low 6's. Now a used S4, i like the sound of that ill look into it.

[The_Canuck]

Early 90s BMW M3 may suit you. The best option would be to get a Subaru :D
i was thinking for a while an E36. but then it is RWD right? which isn't bad but then i might need snow rims and all that. but an e36 would be cool.

[my porsche]

I don't think he is. First cars in the US are always somehow more extravagant than first cars here :p
I'd love for somebody to explain it to me :)
because, well it trickles, jobs pay more, less of it gets taken in taxes (handy not having a queen ;) ), less in insurance, less in health care, less in gas prices, leaving much more disposable income. :)

[The_Canuck]

:drool: 1997 Audi S4, mabye just mabye, lol

[Jakg]

but still, how are you going to insure it?

[Wouter Melissen]

because, well it trickles, jobs pay more, less of it gets taken in taxes (handy not having a queen ;) ), less in insurance, less in health care, less in gas prices, leaving much more disposable income. :)

No, cars are rediculously cheap in North America.

[2ndclasscitizen]

if you can find one, get an Audi 1.8T Quattro.

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

bloody hell....dont know where you live, but here in Britain, a good first car is a Corsa or Micra. Mentioning 'R32/wrx/audi' in the same sentence as 'first car' is absurd unless you are one loaded mofo.... insurance is a killer. 0-60 in 5-7?? Aiming a bit high me thinks!! Out of my mates, the best car is a Civic Type S....
Yep, I was gunna say... and they wouldn't insure you, for that matter. Lord knows I've tried to get quotes.

[RazaBlade]

Yep, I was gunna say... and they wouldn't insure you, for that matter. Lord knows I've tried to get quotes.

I just accepted the usual fate of a sub-20 year old male driver in Britain... I bought a train pass!!

[Vaigra]

:drool: 1997 Audi S4, mabye just mabye, lolaren't my suggestions just the best? ;)
I'm sure that wouldn't be too bad a first car in a couple of years :)

[derekthetree]

aren't my suggestions just the best? ;)
I'm sure that wouldn't be too bad a first car in a couple of years :)

for a 30 year old maybe!

[Mustang]

scooby, evo, kit car :D

[Lagonda]

AWD, 5-7sec 0-60, 7k AND roadworthy ? lol.

Come back when you get some insurance quotes and calculate how much money will go to waste in fuel.

[The_Canuck]

lol like i said alot of cars are in that 0-60 range, like almost all subarus.

[Lagonda]

Uhu and how much do you think the insurance on a quick Subaru will be ? They also guzzle fuel. Cheap subarus are also rather spartan and cheap looking IMHO. Especially the older models. And girls don't like spartan cars with hard suspensions and harsh acceleration ;)

[Zytek_Fan]

i was thinking for a while an E36. but then it is RWD right? which isn't bad but then i might need snow rims and all that. but an e36 would be cool.
Indeed. I was looking to get an E36 too. It snows here quite a bit in winter and it gets icy, so I'd get some Michelin Pilot series all season or some other good all season tyres. I am not too sure on insurance though...

[Piacki_117]

7000 what? Dollars?

[The_Canuck]

^No Francs :D lol yeah Canadian Dollars (.89to the US dollar)

[The_Canuck]

On insurance, a subaru with 200-250 or so horsepower, a 4cylinder under 3 litres and 4 doors won't be bad the only reason that they'll raise the prices on it is because of my age.

[Jakg]

On insurance, a subaru with 200-250 or so horsepower, a 4cylinder under 3 litres and 4 doors won't be bad the only reason that they'll raise the prices on it is because of my age.
200-250 hp and your 17? it will cost a shedload!

[Lagonda]

Please Canuck, do yourself a favour and ask for a quote at an insurance company for a car that you like (or a few cars), quotes are probably free anyway. And tell them that it's for a 17-18 y/o person who just got his license. The quote won't be "not that bad", it will be huge.
A Subaru will also probably be known as a serious sportcar by insurance companies because of their rally heritage. Which can only jack up the price.

[Zondaboy1]

I don't think he is. First cars in the US are always somehow more extravagant than first cars here :p
I'd love for somebody to explain it to me :)

rich spoilt b!tches whos daddys dont know the difference between a Z4 and a Z3 and that let their 16year old daughter go clubbing and get totally wasted and raped at a club they own. and then serving alcohol at their parties and saying they had no idea how it got out there

spoilt b!tches

[The_Canuck]

lol i did one qoute and it was 677 a month! but then there was some stuff i couldn't fill out and all so i could have made it lower. funny tho. im going to try another one.

[6'bore]

I'm pretty sure you are all forgettin his budget...

7000 Canadian Dollars...

Which I'm guessing

7,000.00 CAD Canada Dollars = 3,443.10 GBP

[The_Canuck]

lol it was less for an 1997 M3 2 door than a 05 WRX, but i did change one thing so that may have lowered the price.

[The_Canuck]

here we go 470ish for a pre'92 supra turbo. not bad i guess

[Zytek_Fan]

lol i did one qoute and it was 677 a month! but then there was some stuff i couldn't fill out and all so i could have made it lower. funny tho. im going to try another one.
Jeez. I think $100 a month would be the most...

[Vaigra]

I'm pretty sure you are all forgettin his budget...

7000 Canadian Dollars...

Which I'm guessing

7,000.00 CAD Canada Dollars = 3,443.10 GBPJeez...ok canuck, time for that Subaru Justy 4WD :p

[RazaBlade]

here we go 470ish for a pre'92 supra turbo. not bad i guess

welcome to the club of shattered dreams. Is 470 really worth a pre-92 supra?!?

[Rockefella]

I'll sell you my car for 2 grand. It's not fast, but it's comfortable, well-maintained, easy to drive, and can haul some ass for a 2+ ton tank.

[The_Canuck]

lol^ i'll just get a friggin yugo:D


Or mabye just some cheap Rwd car.

[magracer]

After you check insurance quotes, check estimated maintainance and fuel costs. That's the true cost of a car, only then you know if you can afford it.

For example I think you could afford an old Porsche (or BMW, or Mercedes or Audi, etc) but the maintaince costs would break you.

[ringle]

Since you have 3 years or so, look around.
I'm in Ontario and found some incredible cars when I was young.

Among them I owned an '88 Nissan 300ZX which had been rebuilt by a mechanic/racer. The turbo had been tricked out to provide 16PSI of boost and it produced roughly 350HP, yet when driven "normally" still got 35 MPG!! Car was only $6600.00 best deal I ever had in my life. Amazimg car!

[zeta]

I don't know how the used car market or insurance policies are like in Ontario.

If you can get one of your parents to insure it in their name, that would help. Then you could look for a late 90's subaru legacy or impreza sedan, coupe, or wagon- since you want AWD. Then using one of your parents credit ,finance it, use that $CD 7K as a down payment and - depending on where you buy -. Then pay it off plus interest in lump sums out of your own pocket from your savings.

Thats one technique

[Lagonda]

I don't know how the used car market or insurance policies are like in Ontario.

If you can get one of your parents to insure it in their name, that would help. Then you could look for a late 90's subaru legacy or impreza sedan, coupe, or wagon- since you want AWD. Then using one of your parents credit ,finance it, use that $CD 7K as a down payment and - depending on where you buy -. Then pay it off plus interest in lump sums out of your own pocket from your savings.

Thats one technique
And he'll pay out of his ass for years to come just to have a car. Do NOT buy your first car on credit without a stable income. Just don't do it.

[Vaigra]

Since you have 3 years or so, look around.
I'm in Ontario and found some incredible cars when I was young.

Among them I owned an '88 Nissan 300ZX which had been rebuilt by a mechanic/racer. The turbo had been tricked out to provide 16PSI of boost and it produced roughly 350HP, yet when driven "normally" still got 35 MPG!! Car was only $6600.00 best deal I ever had in my life. Amazimg car!I thought you could afford a lot more Royce Gracie.

[The_Canuck]

lol lowest i've gotten so far on anything good is 377 for a 240sx.

[zeta]

And he'll pay out of his ass for years to come just to have a car. Do NOT buy your first car on credit without a stable income. Just don't do it.

:D Yes, it makes no sense to 'stretch your neck' out for a first car, but when he said he would have 7grand in 2-3 years i thinking he would have at least a part time job by then.

And what i see alot of people doing now is paying off in less than a year, if it like $CAD 14,000 and he pays like 4,000 down out of his 7,000, get a fixed monthly rate, he can use his mininium wage job part-time (with no responsiblities) and pay it off in lump payments ,in under a year if wants. Of course he won't have money for anything else after he pays the insurance which is under his parents name- which is why you should make a big deal out of your first car.
Just a thought.

[clutch-monkey]

seriously...integra type R.

[The_Canuck]

^ lol mabye, hard to find though,,,hmm starting to think mabye a hot hatch? SI-R, GTi, S3 (all old and used of course) mabye even just get a regular a3 or somthing and tune it? any other good hatch backs you could think of?
(just thought of WRX hatch)

[2ndclasscitizen]

OK so i just checked and $7k Canadian is a bit over $8k AUD. That's not a whole lotta money. At best you might get a good condition S13 or 180. I don't know if they ever went to Canadia, but first gen LT RWD celicas are pretty good, bit of fun, plenty of stuff out there to do to them. down under $8k could get you a pretty good one. For the amount of money you wanna spend, I wouldn't be holding your breath for anything that good

[The_Canuck]

RWD Celica eh? ill have to look into that, seems like a good idea.

[The_Canuck]

umm those RWD celicas are from pre 1986 and bt the time ill be getting a car (18-20) thats going to be so old i could get one for 300 bucks. mabye a 300z would be affordable by 2010-2012