"What's this car?" Official Thread

[Kitdy]

I did a bit of research of what was available, and apparently the Intrepid was a good car, quite capable of being a front runner, but was usually bested by the better efforts of the works Nissans, Jaguars, and the Spice Acuras.

I'm sure IMSA longs to have the GTP and GTO era back

Yeah I checked that out too. I didn't see a single race win between 1991 and 1993.

What the hell are Spice Acuras?

[Ferrer]

Yeah I checked that out too. I didn't see a single race win between 1991 and 1993.

What the hell are Spice Acuras?
This.

Racing Sports Cars - Photo View (http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1991/Mid-Ohio-1991-06-02-048.jpg)
Racing Sports Cars - Photo View (http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1991/Road_Atlanta-1991-04-28-048.jpg)

[Wouter Melissen]

What the hell are Spice Acuras?

Is Google disabled on your computer?

[faksta]

How do you tell the difference between a TLC restored FJ and a stock FJ? :confused:

This icon isn't a fully restored Toyota FJ, excluding the original factory frame; it is a brand-new Land Cruiser. The majority of components are built from scratch; everything else is new. The only remaining original component, the frame, has been restored to like-new condition. If you're asking yourself, "can I buy one?" they are in fact available. This particular FJ is a prototype and would probably come with a hefty price tag. The hand-crafted Toyota is the first vehicle produced from scratch by TLC. The owner of TLC, Jonathan Ward, tells us thus far he has out approximately $185,000 into the design and build. We can only guess at the true value of this Land Cruiser, since Jonathan is quite renowned for his vehicle restoration and build abilities.

(from the article I've put a link to)

[LeonOfTheDead]

does anybody know if it Austin built its own version of the Mini Marcos?
i found some pics of a Mini Marcos but named "1972 Austin Mini JEM MKII".
my doubt is if this car is actually an official Austin. i know the Marcos and the Jem both descend from the D.A.R.T.

[henk4]

does anybody know if it Austin built its own version of the Mini Marcos?
i found some pics of a Mini Marcos but named "1972 Austin Mini JEM MKII".
my doubt is if this car is actually an official Austin. i know the Marcos and the Jem both descend from the D.A.R.T.

Marcos was actually set up by Jem Marsh, which might explain some of the names used. The model as such was never an Austin or a Morris production version.

[faksta]

Minijem was a separate make AFAIK?

[henk4]

Minijem was a separate make AFAIK?

the name Msrcos and bankruptcies and resurrections under various names have gone hand in hand for the past 40 years or so....

[LeonOfTheDead]

...so what this car is?
i mean, what manufacturer?

Austin Mini Jem MKII (http://www.allsportauto.com/english/mini_jem_mkII.php)

[henk4]

...so what this car is?
i mean, what manufacturer?

Austin Mini Jem MKII (http://www.allsportauto.com/english/mini_jem_mkII.php)

try to find your way through this

Mini Marcos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_Marcos)

[Kitdy]

Is Google disabled on your computer?

Good point.

[LeonOfTheDead]

try to find your way through this

Mini Marcos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_Marcos)

i read that link before to post, and also this

Mini Marcos Owners Club - The Cars (http://www.minimarcos.org.uk/mmhist.html)

but probably i got into confusion because of the Jem-Jeremy-Jem repetition:p...i would like to say it's a Marcos, but i am still not so sure.

[henk4]

i read that link before to post, and also this

Mini Marcos Owners Club - The Cars (http://www.minimarcos.org.uk/mmhist.html)

but probably i got into confusion because of the Jem-Jeremy-Jem repetition:p...i would like to say it's a Marcos, but i am still not so sure.

technically it may be called differently, but they all stem from the first basic (and ugly) design...

[LeonOfTheDead]

technically it may be called differently, but they all stem from the first basic (and ugly) design...

...i will move it to the Marcos folder

Coste C2 (http://www.allsportauto.com/english/coste_c2.php)

btw i have another one, more of a doubt than a request: it is supposed to be a 1999 Coste C2, but that car has a 4 cylinder, while this have a V8 (written on the head of the engine at least) and beside the name, it has written on the back "kimberley". it's identical to the Coste btw, but this two facts put some doubts on my mind. didn't find something useful on google or wiki btw.;)

[LeonOfTheDead]

and then...the 1929 Golden Arrow, is an Irving Napier, as the most results on google say, or an Irving with a Napier engine, or just a car designed by Segrave himself and simply built by Irving? so, again, in which folder should i post those images?;)

[NSXType-R]

This icon isn't a fully restored Toyota FJ, excluding the original factory frame; it is a brand-new Land Cruiser. The majority of components are built from scratch; everything else is new. The only remaining original component, the frame, has been restored to like-new condition. If you're asking yourself, "can I buy one?" they are in fact available. This particular FJ is a prototype and would probably come with a hefty price tag. The hand-crafted Toyota is the first vehicle produced from scratch by TLC. The owner of TLC, Jonathan Ward, tells us thus far he has out approximately $185,000 into the design and build. We can only guess at the true value of this Land Cruiser, since Jonathan is quite renowned for his vehicle restoration and build abilities.

(from the article I've put a link to)

Thanks.

[LeonOfTheDead]

more cars

i know the third is a mini...but which maker?
the same is for the forth/fifth, spotted this weekend during a romantic walk by night...

[Ferrer]

Last one is a Mini Clubman Estate. Light blue Mini looks like a regular Mini, the badge on the bonnet seems to say Mini as well.

[LeonOfTheDead]

Last one is a Mini Clubman Estate.

the badge reminded me of the Metro

[Ferrer]

the badge reminded me of the Metro
Because it's an Austin badge.

[LeonOfTheDead]

Because it's an Austin badge.

ok, that's what i wanted to know:)

[henk4]

the white sports car was discussed earlier, I think Dydzi came up with the same picture, it is a French Swiss?) special, of which I forgot the name again. The blue car could be anything, but I am tempted to say that it could be an MG model (not the T series, but larger) or eventually an Alfa Romeo 6C or so. The picture does not show easy features from which to recognise the car, but you can always ask Matteo from Swiss Carsightings what it is.....

[Sledgehammer]

A hard top convertible I know nothing about. I thought that between 1954-1994 their were none made. The styling of this suggests to me that it was created inbetween the two time periods.

[Suka]

A hard top convertible I know nothing about. I thought that between 1954-1994 their were none made. The styling of this suggests to me that it was created inbetween the two time periods.

Its a Nova Kit Car. Designed by Richard Oakes.

Linky (http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/kitcar/kitcar_details.php?158)

[faksta]

the white sports car was discussed earlier, I think Dydzi came up with the same picture, it is a French Swiss?) special, of which I forgot the name again. The blue car could be anything, but I am tempted to say that it could be an MG model (not the T series, but larger) or eventually an Alfa Romeo 6C or so. The picture does not show easy features from which to recognise the car, but you can always ask Matteo from Swiss Carsightings what it is.....

I'd rather say the blue one is a Lagonda.

[dydzi]

the white sports car was discussed earlier, I think Dydzi came up with the same picture, it is a French Swiss?) special, of which I forgot the name again. The blue car could be anything, but I am tempted to say that it could be an MG model (not the T series, but larger) or eventually an Alfa Romeo 6C or so. The picture does not show easy features from which to recognise the car, but you can always ask Matteo from Swiss Carsightings what it is.....

yeah it's the one. the name of the first car from that post is BORGHI 01 SIMCA built by a Swiss Michiel Borghi in 1969 and still owned by the family and actively used in swiss classic car events now.

[LeonOfTheDead]

yeah it's the one. the name of the first car from that post is BORGHI 01 SIMCA built by a Swiss Michiel Borghi in 1969 and still owned by the family and actively used in swiss classic car events now.

thanks a lot!:)

[Sledgehammer]

Appologies for the picture Q. phone camera. Definetly american muscle though.

[NSXType-R]

I think it's a Jaguar.... E-Type?

Bad pictures, I know, but I caught it out of the corner of my eye.

[NSXType-R]

Appologies for the picture Q. phone camera. Definetly american muscle though.

What car would that be?

[Ferrer]

I think it's a Jaguar.... E-Type?

Bad pictures, I know, but I caught it out of the corner of my eye.
It's a Series III E-Type Roadster.

[Revo]

Appologies for the picture Q. phone camera. Definetly american muscle though.
1965 Plymouth Belvedere

[key1710]

saw this on the nurburgring webcam think its a race car takin part in the 24h race273921

[key1710]

i know its a range rover but all the new range rovers look the same to me 273922

[key1710]

anyone

[Gt1Street]

saw this on the nurburgring webcam think its a race car takin part in the 24h race273921

1. If you are wondering what the race it, then its the ADAC Zurich 24h-Rennen (http://www.24h-rennen.de/)
2. It seems to be either this Z4 M Coupe racer pic 2 (http://adac.24h-rennen.de/typo3temp/ce_gallery/d_13469_800_600_90.JPG) or this Porsche 997 GT3 Cup (http://adac.24h-rennen.de/typo3temp/ce_gallery/d_13399_800_600_90.JPG) Pic 2 (http://adac.24h-rennen.de/typo3temp/ce_gallery/d_13177_800_600_90.JPG)

and looking at their gallery I have two more things to say:
1. Freakn amazing turnup of cars for the race; Scirocco's, Gumpert Apollo, Porsches, Gallardos, Vipers, DB9 and what not.
2. I wish we had any sort of cover of it here :(

[Gt1Street]

i know its a range rover but all the new range rovers look the same to me 273922

looks like the Range Rover Sport

[o-sean-o]

What car is this?

http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/articles/images01/hulme_f1.jpg

[Kitdy]

What car is this?

http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/articles/images01/hulme_f1.jpg

I've seen it before. I think it's a car from New Zealand but I can't think of the name.

EDIT: It's called the Hulme Supercar concept, named after NZ F1 WC, Denny Hulme.

[Rockefella]

Hulme F1 if I remember right. I think it was named after New Zealand's only? Formula 1 driver.

[Gt1Street]

What car is this?

http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/articles/images01/hulme_f1.jpg

Welcome to UCP, next time please bother to take a look at the file name, it might suggest an answer for the question of what it is...

[key1710]

a aston something
274017

[Ferrer]

It's an Aston Martin DBS.

[key1710]

cool what year?

[Kitdy]

Is this car called an Italia Torino?

It's what I have it saved as, but net searches have revealed no info on it.

[henk4]

It is the Apollo convertible.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/classic-cars/35571-international-motorcars-apollo-3500-gt.html

[Kitdy]

It is the Apollo convertible.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/classic-cars/35571-international-motorcars-apollo-3500-gt.html

But it looks completely different...

[Ferrer]

cool what year?
They were produced form 1967 until 1972, IIRC.

[sproggly]

Hulme F1 if I remember right. I think it was named after New Zealand's only? Formula 1 driver.

think Bruce Mclaren had a race or two in Formula 1 before turning to building some pretty fast cars. Chris Amon raced a few Ferrari's sometime around then too.

Hulme may have been our only F1 world champion though.

Seems us kiwis are following Indycars these days...:D

[NSXType-R]

It's a Series III E-Type Roadster.

1965 Plymouth Belvedere

Thanks.

[henk4]

But it looks completely different...

Search under Intermeccanica Italia spyder, it is closely related to the Apollo, and it is probably the car in your picture....

[Kitdy]

Search under Intermeccanica Italia spyder, it is closely related to the Apollo, and it is probably the car in your picture....

Bingo. Thanks henk.

EDIT: What's the going rate on these?

[ulimator]

Information needed: mysterious Australian supercar entitled Zandonella LJ36. Here are the links that do not provide any concrete informaion: Sell Zandonella, Zandonella trade - Car (http://www.made-in-china.com/trade-offers/offerviewJqUnsOVlaatW/Sell-Zandonella.html) and Zandonella Motors - Coupe (http://www.go-gears.com/view_ad.php?ad_id=6850). I would be very thankful if anyone could provide me with any accurate information about this supercars (official website, contact details, etc.) Any meaningless replies would not be appreciated. Thank You!

[o-sean-o]

any idea what this is?http://www.chevroncarsblog.com/images/photos/yellow-car_lg.jpg

[Wouter Melissen]

A Subaru?

[henk4]

Subaru 360

[osca1600]

daihatsu i think.... Nik

[osca1600]

technically it may be called differently, but they all stem from the first basic (and ugly) design...
Mini marcos was ONE car.. Later Mini JEM appeared courtesy of Jem Marxh . nothing to do with Austin or marcos...

[henk4]

Mini marcos was ONE car.. Later Mini JEM appeared courtesy of Jem Marxh . nothing to do with Austin or marcos...

If, as you say, Jem appears courtesy of Jem Marsh, then I fail to see how there is no relation with Marcos (Marsh-Costin)

and welcome to UCP btw.

[LeonOfTheDead]

Mini marcos was ONE car.. Later Mini JEM appeared courtesy of Jem Marxh . nothing to do with Austin or marcos...

If, as you say, Jem appears courtesy of Jem Marsh, then I fail to see how there is no relation with Marcos (Marsh-Costin)

and welcome to UCP btw.

you are confusing me guys.

[ulimator]

I have found three pictures of the cars I've never seen before on WOW. - Supercars.net (http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=7&fID=37&tID=116488) with no exact info. The only commnets are Perkins M2
& Kuzara car. So, I guys, I would like to ask You for the help to identify these cars or give any exact information that I could use to find further info. Thank You very much!

[ribatejo69]

Nº 3 is the Kuzara Car. the transmission is based in heli's transmission. that's all I know :confused:

[ribatejo69]

... and cars 1 and 2 are in fact the Perkins M2 - I have just this two pics

[ulimator]

Thanks! I've found very little information about Perkins.. I just can't find anything about the third one... Where was it made? Any another details please? Anything... Ribatejo, have You any more pictures of Kuzara?

[faksta]

... and cars 1 and 2 are in fact the Perkins M2 - I have just this two pics

Huh..who do I see? :) Haven't heard from you for a rather long time.

[ribatejo69]

Huh..who do I see? :) Haven't heard from you for a rather long time.

I have some time in a hotel called hospital :( but now I am better :) (bad food in this hotel: to him I only give half star :D )

....................

Ulimator: I don't have more pics of Kuzuka Car. only that. and no more specification, except the singular thing about the transmission. is not a 'easy' car...
(this weekend I give to you another e-mail whit more pic's about we talk. do you receveid the last, the nº 2?)

regards to all

[faksta]

I have some time in a hotel called hospital :( but now I am better :) (bad food in this hotel: to him I only give half star :D

I bet it was 4-star at least. Makes me think 'go and consume fast food instead of eating in a hotel'. Good to hear you're ok.

[ribatejo69]

I bet it was 4-star at least. Makes me think 'go and consume fast food instead of eating in a hotel'. Good to hear you're ok.

(for translate your joke I must have a help of my daughter... you know me and 'my english' eheheh :o )

yes. it's just horrible! boiled fish and potatoes five days in a week! argh...:eek: do I believe I see from my room, a neon-pub of the local McDonald's... and I dream about it? a nice, sweet, the best of all the world, a sexy chesseburger? :D for m-o-n-t-h-s? :mad:

[faksta]

a sexy chesseburger?

That's a compromising evidence :D

[ribatejo69]

That's a compromising evidence :D

lol

in my dreams in that time a cheeseburger is more atractive of Nicole Kidman, or any other one 'icon girl'! :)

but NOW I became to the good route, don't worry! :D

[faksta]

You should have imagined Kelly Osbourne so that you didn't want to eat for a month at least...

[ribatejo69]

You should have imagined Kelly Osbourne so that you didn't want to eat for a month at leats...

Kelly Osbourne? who's him? :confused: a... very fat girl? :rolleyes:

[LeonOfTheDead]

Kelly Osbourne? who's him? :confused: a... very fat girl? :rolleyes:

you wouldn't want to know her, believe me...;)

[ribatejo69]

Kelly Osbourne? who's him? :confused: a... very fat girl? :rolleyes:

ok, ok! Google is my friend! :D :D :D

[frankwissman]

It's a Lancia Scorpion, it can wear a Ferrari decal since it's using a 4-valve version of the 246 engine. A Scuderia shield is stretching it, though.

[LeonOfTheDead]

It's a Lancia Scorpion, it can wear a Ferrari decal since it's using a 4-valve version of the 246 engine. A Scuderia shield is stretching it, though.

what are you referring about?:confused:

[faksta]

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/517860-post9.html

This maybe :)

[LeonOfTheDead]

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/517860-post9.html

This maybe :)

...:confused:...

now I'm even more confused:D

[ulimator]

What are these cars:

I know car in all these pictures (except the last one) is prototype of Peugeot / Citroen / Renault. I need exact info about it. And I have no idea abou the last one. Could anyone help me?

[faksta]

The last one is IIRC Volvo Philip, concept from fifties.
For the rest ones look through UCP Retromobile slide shows - I've seen them there, but don't remember how were they called :)

[LeonOfTheDead]

pics 1-2-3-4 are of the 1959 Renault 900 Project, two different versions of it AFAIK

[ribatejo69]

nº 1 Renault 900 Studio; nº 3 and 4 other Renault 900 prototype; nº 2 I'm not sure is a Renault 900, or a 600 concept like this in the pic:

[ribatejo69]

pics 1-2-3-4 are of the 1959 Renault 900 Project, two different versions of it AFAIK

nº 1 Renault 900 Studio; nº 3 and 4 other Renault 900 prototype; nº 2 I'm not sure is a Renault 900, or a 600 concept like this in the pic:

sure are all the 900? nº 2 in left side I'm confused

[ribatejo69]

pics 1-2-3-4 are of the 1959 Renault 900 Project, two different versions of it AFAIK

you are right: the doors is similar

[LeonOfTheDead]

you are right: the doors is similar

I have more pics of it, and it's the only "reverse car project" in that color AFAIK.

[ribatejo69]

I have more pics of it, and it's the only "reverse car project" in that color AFAIK.

thanks for the pics. and about the '600'? anyone have more?

[LeonOfTheDead]

thanks for the pics. and about the '600'? anyone have more?

no sorry, only this one of another "900", and some details from the golden 900. I don't know if this is the xact palce to post them, but you can find them at here (http://www.allsportauto.com)

[o-sean-o]

Anyone know that this is it is a suzuki but it didnt have a badge onthe back so dont know and ideas?

[ribatejo69]

no sorry, only this one of another "900", and some details from the golden 900. I don't know if this is the xact palce to post them, but you can find them at here (http://www.allsportauto.com)

Thanks. I allways go to see news in "AllSportAuto" site (nice place: many models). and this time I return, and use the search motor for "Renault 600": no one. see the "Renault" folder, the same result: no.

I have time. lots of time. one day, somewhere in some site, anothers photos got to the clarity and... I give it for "me" !!!

[Ferrer]

Anyone know that this is it is a suzuki but it didnt have a badge onthe back so dont know and ideas?
Suzuki Capuccino.

[ribatejo69]

Anyone know that this is it is a suzuki but it didnt have a badge onthe back so dont know and ideas?

Capuccino?:confused:

[ribatejo69]

Suzuki Capuccino.

at the same time! :)

[o-sean-o]

Capuccino thanks

[Ecnelis]

Can anyone tell me what it exactly is? :D

It's some kind of Imperial Something Le Baron Whatever. :confused:

[Kitdy]

Can anyone tell me what it exactly is? :D

It's some kind of Imperial Something Le Baron Whatever. :confused:

It's a 1959 Imperial.

If it is a LeBaron or whatever I can't tell, in 1959 there were three trim options: Imperial Custom (base), Imperial Crown, and Imperial LeBaron.

I looked around at google and couldn't tell the difference form the outside between any of the three of them.

Hope this helps.

[Ecnelis]

Thanks! Looks like it is Le Baron:

Crown:

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/1959-crown-imperial-1.jpg

Custom:

http://www.allpar.com/cars/imperial/photos/1959_ImperialCustom.jpg

Le Baron:

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/1957-59-imperial-lebaron.jpg

[Timothy (in VA)]

I'm pretty sure it's not a LeBaron. The '59 LeBaron had two chrome rings on the tail fins, like on the one in the attached picture. LeBarons also had gold colored trim on the wheel covers.

the 1959 page at Imperialclub.com: 1959 (Chrysler) Imperial Home Page (http://www.imperialclub.com/Yr/1959/index.htm)

[ulimator]

Hey! Does anyone have the pictures of Swiss Agea de Toledo sportscar?

[juanelo242]

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/1957-59-imperial-lebaron.jpg
Chrysler Imperial Crown 1959

[faksta]

Hey! Does anyone have the pictures of Swiss Agea de Toledo sportscar?

Better place your request in Requests thread in Matt's Hide-Out section so that more people could see it.

[o-sean-o]

I dont know what this is but on the front it says Riley so im not sure.

[Ferrer]

Riley One-Point-Five.

[o-sean-o]

I saw this in Belgium any ideas?

[o-sean-o]

thanks ferrer

[Ecnelis]

I saw this in Belgium any ideas?
Just Google "Aixam"... ;)

--> Aixam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aixam)
--> AIXAM, le leader européen des voitures sans permis (http://www.aixam.com)
--> Aixam Cars - Websters of Stoke (http://www.aixam-cars.co.uk)

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/1957-59-imperial-lebaron.jpg
Chrysler Imperial Crown 1959
--> Howstuffworks "1957-1959 Imperial LeBaron" (http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1957-1959-imperial-lebaron.htm)

So HowStuffWorks.com is wrong?

[juanelo242]

This is all i have

[nota]

This is all i have
That is all you need

1952-55 Ford Taunus 12M (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://website.webcenter.lycos.de/www.fomcc.de/g13.htm&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=7&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dford%2Btaunus%2B12m%2Bg13%26hl%3Den%2 6client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den)

[Timothy (in VA)]

--> Howstuffworks "1957-1959 Imperial LeBaron" (http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1957-1959-imperial-lebaron.htm)

So HowStuffWorks.com is wrong?

No, they're right. That's definitely a LeBaron. It has the double rings on the fins and the large script badge on the fender reads LeBaron, not Imperial.

[key1710]

Yamaha i think
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[CamNismo]

Hey I found these on a Japanese Website and they were racing them around Tsukuba circuit and I know they're Porsche but what kind????

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s68/bbc7/porsche2.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s68/bbc7/Porsche.jpg

[Ferrer]

They look like heavily modified 964s.

[henk4]

993 GT2 or GT3 model probably.

Ferrer is right it is a 964 but fitted with the wings from later GT2 models

[LeonOfTheDead]

993 GT2 or GT3 model probably.

Ferrer is right it is a 964 but fitted with the wings from later GT2 models

I think the wing is just similar to that of the 993 GT2.
they are definitely 964s, impossible to say which versions, I guess (hope) the standard model since they have been modified so badly.

[CamNismo]

Thanks for the INFO bout them....heres a cpl more in action

Also what the hell is this lil car on the trailor???
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s68/bbc7/idk.jpg

[henk4]

Austin A30

[Ferrer]

The car on the trailer is an Austin A35.

[Ferrer]

Austin A30
How to differentiate an A30 from an A35?

[henk4]

How to differentiate an A30 from an A35?

Austin A30 & A35 Car & Van Buying Guide (http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/buyers_guide_a35.htm)

[NSXType-R]

What's this car?

[henk4]

a mid sixties Barracuda

[nota]

It's early Plymouth Barracuda

Related to > THESE (http://www.moparts.org/moparts/picture/oldweb/AP6.html) <

[Ferrer]

a mid sixties Barracuda

It's early Plymouth Barracuda

Related to > THESE (http://www.moparts.org/moparts/picture/oldweb/AP6.html) <
Chaps, you're wrong.

It's a Mercury Grand Marquis... :D

[henk4]

Chaps, you're wrong.

It's a Mercury Grand Marquis... :D

sour grapes that we got up earlier than you:confused:

[Ferrer]

sour grapes that we got up earlier than you:confused:
Nah just a bit of morning humour. :)

[NSXType-R]

Wow that was really fast. Been passing it all the time, wondering what the heck it was.

Finally got a chance to photograph it.

Thanks everyone for the info.

Didn't know what style the bed was cause I don't want to trespass.

[nota]

Didn't know what style the bed was cause I don't want to trespass.
Barracuda debuted as the sporty coupe variant of 2nd-gen Valiant and was a precursor (by 2 weeks!) to the original Ford Mustang. It was the only Valiant-based model to get that unique (and US-only) fastback body-style, which is distinguished by its huge wrap-over back window

Image:1965 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1965_Plymouth_Barracuda_Formula_S.jpg)

Sorry about confusing you by linking to the frontally similar Wayfarer ute, which is a body-type that never appeared in US-built Valiants. So I knew you'd never seen one - and why I shared it :)

[NSXType-R]

Barracuda debuted as the sporty coupe variant of 2nd-gen Valiant and was a precursor (by 2 weeks!) to the original Ford Mustang. It was the only Valiant-based model to get that unique (and US-only) fastback body-style, which is distinguished by its huge wrap-over back window

Image:1965 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1965_Plymouth_Barracuda_Formula_S.jpg)

Sorry about confusing you by linking to the frontally similar Wayfarer ute, which is a body-type that never appeared in US-built Valiants. So I knew you'd never seen one - and why I shared it :)

Thank you very much for clearing it up for me. That was very nice of you.

[key1710]

277902anyone tell me what bike this is i think its a yamaha but not sure

[ulimator]

Hi! Could someone provide me with the information about Rhapsodie Auto? Thank You!

[faksta]

ulimator, where do you get them? :)

[ulimator]

The pictures of Rhapsodie are taken from Rhapsodie Auto, 1991 Auto | Conceptcarz.com - Pictures, Pricing, Information, Wallpaper, History (http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z288/Rhapsodie_Auto.aspx). I didn't found any other additional info about this car.

[key1710]

anyone know what 3 wheeler this is?278038

[henk4]

I think a Berkeley

[ulimator]

Yes it is a Berkeley T60. Just look the pictures and compare: 1960 Berkeley T-60 (http://www.microcarmuseum.com/tour/berkeley-t60.html)

[key1710]

Thanks Chaps

[key1710]

Do not have a clue what the blue one is but the Mercedes is a something AMG
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[faksta]

Mercedes is an SL AMG, and the blue one is, I think, Austin A40?

[Revo]

Blue car is Morris Minor.

[key1710]

Is this a normal SL then?
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[faksta]

Yes, it is an SL, too.

[LeonOfTheDead]

both the SL are standard, but the grey one has the AMG aero kit. it's not an AMG because the rearlight aren't darker than usual and it doesn't have the "v8 kompressor" badge near the side vent or the "SL55" badge (the rims are form the 55). and I can't think of an AMG owner who removes those badges keeping the "AMG" one.

[key1710]

Thanks

[NSXType-R]

Not really a picture to show, but I've seen two CLK 55 AMGs with no V-8 Kompressor badges. It's not a real CLK 55 AMG then right?

For one instance, I did hear a mean engine growl, but no badges were seen. Plus, there were no quad tailpipes for both instances.

Edit-
Just checked the hideout thread. Boy, you'd think they'd keep things consistent!

But no, they change things over many times. And, quad tailpipe or not, there is no side Kompressor badge!

[Ferrer]

Not really a picture to show, but I've seen two CLK 55 AMGs with no V-8 Kompressor badges. It's not a real CLK 55 AMG then right?

For one instance, I did hear a mean engine growl, but no badges were seen. Plus, there were no quad tailpipes for both instances.

Edit-
Just checked the hideout thread. Boy, you'd think they'd keep things consistent!

But no, they change things over many times. And, quad tailpipe or not, there is no side Kompressor badge!
That's probably because the CLK didn't have the supercharged engine... ;)

[key1710]

278424278423
Two different pictures but both the same car anyone know what they are?

[Ferrer]

Nissan Figaro.

[key1710]

cheers i wouldnt never have guesed that was japenese though.

[key1710]

4 more the red one a pontiac something a maserati something rollys royce something and a bentley arnage?
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[NSXType-R]

That's probably because the CLK didn't have the supercharged engine... ;)

It didn't have the supercharged engine? This is in the older generation CLK55.

I thought all the engines were supercharged. There's something new that I learn everyday. :D

[Kitdy]

4 more the red one a pontiac something a maserati something rollys royce something and a bentley arnage?
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The first one looks like a Firebird and the second a 3200 GT or Coupe.

[Ferrer]

It didn't have the supercharged engine? This is in the older generation CLK55.

I thought all the engines were supercharged. There's something new that I learn everyday. :D
Nope they had two variants. A normally aspirated one for the C, CLK and SLK. And the supercharged one for the E, CLS, SL and S (amongst others).

[NSXType-R]

Nope they had two variants. A normally aspirated one for the C, CLK and SLK. And the supercharged one for the E, CLS, SL and S (amongst others).

I see.

That's so they don't perform better than the higher models.

[juanelo242]

Any info on this car? Contessa what?

[LeonOfTheDead]

4 more the red one a pontiac something a maserati something rollys royce something and a bentley arnage?
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the maserati is a 4200 GT, the Bentley could be an old Brooklands

[key1710]

cheers i think the bentley is a bentley eight what do you think
also i saw the maserati again and i have a better picture
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[naweng]

cheers i think the bentley is a bentley eight what do you think
also i saw the maserati again and i have a better picture

The Maserati is a 4200 GT for sure. The red Pontiac is one of these ugly ´90s Firebirds and the Bentley must be a Turbo R.

The "Jaguar" on your 3rd picture is a Rolls-Royce Silver Spur or Silver Spirit, not sure with these two, but both from the ´80s.

[key1710]

cheers

[faksta]

Guys, can you tell me whether this Williams is an FW14 or FW14B?

[LeonOfTheDead]

Guys, can you tell me whether this Williams is an FW14 or FW14B?

1992 Williams FW14B
look at the air scoop ;)

[faksta]

1992 Williams FW14B
look at the air scoop ;)

Thanks :) By the way, since you mentioned the air scoop. Yesterday I've shot a Red Bull, which seems to me to be an RB2, except for the air scoop... Did I miss something or is it some modification of RB2? Anyone knows?

[faksta]

Huh..finally I've found an answer at one of the Russian forums - this car is a Toro Rosso STR-01 painted in a Red Bull trim. The engine is Renault instead of the original Cosworth and also with a restrictor applied.

[LeonOfTheDead]

Huh..finally I've found an answer at one of the Russian forums - this car is a Toro Rosso STR-01 painted in a Red Bull trim. The engine is Renault instead of the original Cosworth and also with a restrictor applied.

...........why?:confused:

[CamNismo]

Hey Does anyone know what type of car this is??? I found it on a VIP japan car site, VIP or Bippu Style is becoming more & more popular there...anyway, if anyones knows, please tell me....Thanks Alot...

[The_Canuck]

Toyota Chaser, i think.

[CamNismo]

Toyota Chaser, i think.

I pretty sure its Not a Chaser, the headlights on the car I posted are different...the Chaser's lights are smaller & different, look at these pics and compare....also the corner lamps are different too, so I dont think its a Chaser....

[IBrake4Rainbows]

It's more likely to be a Celsior/Lexus LS400.

[CamNismo]

It's more likely to be a Celsior/Lexus LS400.

see thats what I was thinking, like a Celsior...but im not forsure

[The_Canuck]

it almost looks like a Cima too...

[CamNismo]

it almost looks like a Cima too...

I think it is a Celsior...compare these pics and see what you think...the headlights and grill look the same on both...

[The_Canuck]

Yeah but theres some different badging and the sizes look slightly off...could be it though.

[CamNismo]

Yeah but theres some different badging and the sizes look slightly off...could be it though.

well the Toyota badge has been removed from the grille on the one...but on the gray one it has a small circle thing on the hood, it could be a different Toyota badge, or maybe it the company logo of the bodykit cause ive seen that b4 too...idk, thanks for the help though....

[faksta]

...........why?:confused:

I don't know... :confused: Maybe Toro Rosso is more simple and kind of cheaper, while a Red Bull trim is used to make associations with a drink.

[ulimator]

Please respond everybody who knows anything about this strange unknown&unseen vehicle...

[faksta]

It's a Russian car called Ultima. Built in 1 example. It had to participate in Peugeot design contest in 2001, but the author (Andrei Nagornyi) knew about the contest only one night before its finish. So he realised not to send the pictures but to build the car himself in Smolensk in an ordinary garage. It took him 9 month to finish the car.

Some specs: weight - 500kg, length - 3500mm, width - 1800mm, height - 970mm, wheelbase - 2500mm,
engine - V4 (Yamaha V-Max), 147hp@9000rpm, 114Nm@6500rpm,
transmission - manual-6, sequential,
suspension - front - independent, rear - dependent,
disc brakes

ÈËËÞÑÒÐÀÖÈß Ê ÑÒÀÒÜÅ (http://www.popmech.ru/showpic.php?/pic/photos/5878.jpg)
ÈËËÞÑÒÐÀÖÈß Ê ÑÒÀÒÜÅ (http://www.popmech.ru/showpic.php?/pic/photos/5874.jpg)
ÈËËÞÑÒÐÀÖÈß Ê ÑÒÀÒÜÅ (http://www.popmech.ru/showpic.php?/pic/photos/5875.jpg)
ÈËËÞÑÒÐÀÖÈß Ê ÑÒÀÒÜÅ (http://www.popmech.ru/showpic.php?/pic/photos/5876.jpg)
ÈËËÞÑÒÐÀÖÈß Ê ÑÒÀÒÜÅ (http://www.popmech.ru/showpic.php?/pic/photos/5877.jpg)
ÈËËÞÑÒÐÀÖÈß Ê ÑÒÀÒÜÅ (http://www.popmech.ru/showpic.php?/pic/photos/5879.jpg)

[CamNismo]

Ok, this is another Bippu(VIP Style) Japan car...I cant figure out what it is....does anyone know what it is??? Thanks.............

[kingofthering]

Nissan Cedric/Gloria.

[ulimator]

It's a Russian car called Ultima. Built in 1 example. It had to participate in Peugeot design contest in 2001, but the author (Andrei Nagornyi) knew about the contest only one night before its finish. So he realised not to send the pictures but to build the car himself in Smolensk in an ordinary garage. It took him 9 month to finish the car.

Some specs: weight - 500kg, length - 3500mm, width - 1800mm, height - 970mm, wheelbase - 2500mm,
engine - V4 (Yamaha V-Max), 147hp@9000rpm, 114Nm@6500rpm,
transmission - manual-6, sequential,
suspension - front - independent, rear - dependent,
disc brakes



Thank You very much, Faksta! :-)

[CamNismo]

Nissan Cedric/Gloria.

Thanks for the Information...

[osca1600]

Appears to be the big Iso Grifo 7 litre (Chev powered)

hi there..
Well.. No difference between the Ford and the Chevy powered cars visually.. Supply dwindled on the chevys so they swithched to Ford.
iTs an Iso grifo IR8 or IR9 8 is chevy and 9 ford..

Nik former targa owner 0289

[osca1600]

Appears to be the big Iso Grifo 7 litre (Chev powered)

hi there..
Well.. No difference between the Ford and the Chevy powered cars visually.. Supply dwindled on the chevys so they swithched to Ford.
iTs an Iso grifo IR8 or IR9 8 is chevy and 9 ford..

Nik former targa owner 0289


Answsering post # 1104

[henk4]

hi there..
Well.. No difference between the Ford and the Chevy powered cars visually.. Supply dwindled on the chevys so they swithched to Ford.
iTs an Iso grifo IR8 or IR9 8 is chevy and 9 ford..

Nik former targa owner 0289


Answsering post # 1104

thanks, were they produced after each other or also in parallel? Can they be recognised directly from the chassis number?

[osca1600]

thanks, were they produced after each other or also in parallel? Can they be recognised directly from the chassis number?

yes .. wait a minute..

[o-sean-o]

i know this is a maserati but im not sure which and ideas?

[LeonOfTheDead]

i know this is a maserati but im not sure which and ideas?

4200 GT, no air vents on the bonnet so it isn't a 3200 GT, otherwise they are pretty identical except for the rear lights.

[o-sean-o]

thanks so its a 4200gt?

[o-sean-o]

do you know what this is i think its a mg of some kind?

[LeonOfTheDead]

do you know what this is i think its a mg of some kind?

it's an MG B series 3, 1975 IIRC

[juanelo242]

I've been asking for this in several forums, no one is sure, so far is a De Soto 1937, or Chrysler, even Ford, the front grille is not original and that's confusing. (photo taken in Chile):

[CamNismo]

I know this is a Nissan S15 Silvia, but does anyone know what the front BodyKit is called...like what company???thanks

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s68/bbc7/130_0710_04_z_nissan_silviafront_vi.jpg

[nota]

I've been asking for this in several forums, no one is sure, so far is a De Soto 1937,
After viewing a few De Soto pics it really does appear to bear the hallmarks of that car

Example (http://www.hemmings.com/users/175582/ride/3452.html)

[henk4]

After viewing a few De Soto pics it really does appear to bear the hallmarks of that car

Example (http://www.hemmings.com/users/175582/ride/3452.html)
especially the wiper location.

[CamNismo]

anyone know what these cars are???

[henk4]

the first and second could have been Mitsubishis before somebody decided to rape them.

[nota]

anyone know what these cars are???

nissan cima - Google Image Search (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&resnum=0&q=nissan+cima&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=1&ct=title)

[orshow]

I know this is a Nissan S15 Silvia, but does anyone know what the front BodyKit is called...like what company???thanks



rice try taking one of the names from the stickers (on the rice) and type it into google...along with silvia;) Veilside, maybe??

[Ecnelis]

Any ideas about this Jaguar-ish one? :confused: :D

[LeonOfTheDead]

Any ideas about this Jaguar-ish one? :confused: :D

wow, good find, the rims are for sure from a jag...but I have no idea on what it could be

[Matra et Alpine]

Has all the hallmarks of a kit or one-off build.
Too many "unfinished" looking bits for that to be from any of the big manufacturers/design houses !!

[LeonOfTheDead]

it reminds me of the old XJ13

[faksta]

Wow! I actually like it. At least we can suppose almost for sure that it's Australian - the site name and the steering wheel on the right tell this.

Why are the pictures named 'RAC Rally'? :confused:

[Ecnelis]

Why are the pictures named 'RAC Rally'? :confused:
This are original file names from ozcarsightings.com (I wrote to owner of the site with question about this car, but there was no replay):

A celebration of the RAC, with about 500 cars turning up. There were alot of old timers that don't interest me, so not many pics.

[faksta]

This are original file names from ozcarsightings.com (I wrote to owner of the site with question about this car, but there was no replay):

In this case I suppose it's British, not Australian.

[Ferrer]

In this case I suppose it's British, not Australian.
Well the Australians still recognize the autority of the queen... ;)

[Q TOY]

wow, good find, the rims are for sure from a jag...but I have no idea on what it could be

They look like XJ220 rims but the rear looks far far to thin to be original ones. It must be some kind of one off i guess.

[Ferrer]

They look like XJ220 rims but the rear looks far far to thin to be original ones. It must be some kind of one off i guess.
I think they are actually the wheels of a 6 cyl XJR.

[LeonOfTheDead]

I think they are actually the wheels of a 6 cyl XJR.

I had almost forgotten those 6 cyl supercharged...it's been a looooong time since last time I thought about it

[Kitdy]

What is this? I saw it going northbound on the DVP just before the 401.

I thought I could sorta see Fiat in the logo.

[henk4]

Austin Healey Sprite, the version that came after the Frog-Eye.

[ulimator]

Any ideas about this Jaguar-ish one? :confused: :D

The answer an more pictures is here: SUPERCARS.NET - Community Forums (http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=161238)

However, i didn't manage to find any more exact info about Cliff Byfield :-(

[fnqvmuch]

newbie here; this was taken in 1956 at either albert park or fisherman's bend (melbourne)
and dad's notes say the car in centre frame is a TC special - but behind it on the right ? i think french but no vedette, aronde or fregate i can find another photo of ...

[fnqvmuch]

What are these cars:

I know car in all these pictures (except the last one) is prototype of Peugeot / Citroen / Renault. I need exact info about it. And I have no idea abou the last one. Could anyone help me?
thought last one was - maybe - a Kaiser or willys (south america)

[fnqvmuch]

thought last one was - maybe - a Kaiser or willys (south america)
... and i stand corrected - but, really - whats the difference?

[bbc]

What is this car?

http://s59.radikal.ru/i163/0808/13/021d913a4928t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s59.radikal.ru/i163/0808/13/021d913a4928.jpg.html)

[LeonOfTheDead]

What is this car?

http://s59.radikal.ru/i163/0808/13/021d913a4928t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s59.radikal.ru/i163/0808/13/021d913a4928.jpg.html)

2003 Peugeot Hoggar Concept

[bbc]

Thank you! Are there other images of the car?

[LeonOfTheDead]

Thank you! Are there other images of the car?

of course! (http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/1613/Peugeot-Hoggar.html)

[Matra et Alpine]

Thank you! Are there other images of the car?
Google IS your friend ..... 2003 Peugeot Hoggar Concept - Google Image Search (http://images.google.com/images?q=2003%20Peugeot%20Hoggar%20Concept)

[Revo]

newbie here; this was taken in 1956 at either albert park or fisherman's bend (melbourne)
and dad's notes say the car in centre frame is a TC special - but behind it on the right ? i think french but no vedette, aronde or fregate i can find another photo of ...
How about Fiat 1900A? I'm not entirely sure, but it does look very similar...

[fnqvmuch]

i'm impressed - thanks for that

[ulimator]

There are two unknown cars. The first is called Zara (or Kuzara I have seen) the second is "Patriot Concept". I know nothing more about these cars.. Maybe someone could provide me with any accurate information about them? Who made them, years, countries, maybe tech data or any links... Thank You! Can't wait to get any useful information abou these;-)

These pictures are taken from: Car Stock Photos and Animal Stock images - kimballstock (http://www.kimballstock.com)

[henk4]

There are two unknown cars. The first is called Zara (or Kuzara I have seen) the second is "Patriot Concept". I know nothing more about these cars.. Maybe someone could provide me with any accurate information about them? Who made them, years, countries, maybe tech data or any links... Thank You! Can't wait to get any useful information abou these;-)

These pictures are taken from: Car Stock Photos and Animal Stock images - kimballstock (http://www.kimballstock.com)

we could ask Ron Kimball....

[ulimator]

we could ask Ron Kimball....

Ok let's do it! I've already written an info request e-mail, but no answer yet.. Could You do the same? I REALLY NEED to get info about these cars ;-D

[faksta]

newbie here; this was taken in 1956 at either albert park or fisherman's bend (melbourne)
and dad's notes say the car in centre frame is a TC special - but behind it on the right ? i think french but no vedette, aronde or fregate i can find another photo of ...

Wow..I'm hoping to see more such pictures from you.

[henk4]

Ok let's do it! I've already written an info request e-mail, but no answer yet.. Could You do the same? I REALLY NEED to get info about these cars ;-D
I'll do it but after I have returned from my current holidays. Expect to be back on base by September 6th.

[maejustice]

I was wondering if anyone has any info about this car? All I have is the
name of the car, Isdera Autobahnkerier.

[henk4]

Isdera Autobahnkurier AK116i (http://www.madle.org/eak116i.htm)

[maejustice]

Isdera Autobahnkurier AK116i (http://www.madle.org/eak116i.htm)

Thanks for the info on this unique car.

[ulimator]

I was wondering if anyone has any info about this car? All I have is the
name of the car, Isdera Autobahnkerier.

isdera.de (http://www.isdera.de) there You can find more pictures of AK116i, as well as tech specs and info about other models

[Revo]

My gut feeling says it's a Ford. Or is it?

[henk4]

I think you may be right, it looks like a Ford museum, both the signs on the pillars have the Ford logo on it. It might be the famous 1932 coupe, but you only see that these days as a hot rod....

[Revo]

I think you may be righ, it looks like a Ford museum, both the signs on the pillars have the Ford logo on it. It might be the famous 1932 coupe, but you only say that these days as a hot rod....
Well, it looks far too flimsy for American Ford. Could be European Ford then...

The closest thing I've managed to think of is Ford Model Y. However, the details don't match exactly.

[cmcpokey]

it woudl be a 33 or a 34... based on the grill. i woudl say 33, since the 34 has a lot more curve on it. and it woudl be a 5 window.

[nota]

Also think it may well be an English Ford Model Y circa 1932, perhaps early proto as depicted in top-of-page photo of 'Model 19' from here (http://www.fordyandcmodelregister.co.uk/)

[Revo]

Also think it may well be an English Ford Model Y circa 1932, perhaps early proto as depicted in top-of-page photo of 'Model 19' from here (http://www.fordyandcmodelregister.co.uk/)
Ah, that's it! 1932 Ford Model 19 protoype. Thank you very much to all three of you.:)

Nota, excellent website there. ;)

[cmcpokey]

fascinating... didnt realize the american and european fords diverged that early.

[nota]

Ah, that's it! 1932 Ford Model 19 protoype. Thank you very much to all three of you.:)

Nota, excellent website there. ;)
Ooops, sorry mate I didn't realise that my link does not directly show the 'Model Identification' page (containing the photo I allude to) within that site :o

Btw I love the attractive (truck?) wheel at left of your picture :cool:
_________

To share, here's another great UK webite on Fords. Weirdly this one specializes on .. :eek: of all things .. 1960s ~ '80's aussie Falcons!
Quality content with extensive - and accurate - info, especially this superb 2-page in-depth extravaganza just on their engines

Engines (http://www.aus-ford-uk.co.uk/html/engines.html) (I learnt a lot here myself!)

[henk4]

Ah, that's it! 1932 Ford Model 19 protoype. Thank you very much to all three of you.:)

Nota, excellent website there. ;)
at least I got the year correct:)

[Ecnelis]

My question was: http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/824025-post1451.html
And the answer is: Byfield Special based on Jaguar XJS --> Specials (http://www.jaguarhunter.org.au/The_Models_Pages/specials.htm)

Just if someone was interested. ;)

[Matra et Alpine]

^^^^^^^ definately. Thanks. I was stuck on that. Did a google and got nothing else on the car. If you found any more details can you please post or PM them ? Ta.

[Ecnelis]

Sorry, but I don't have any details... But if I find anything more I will post/PM it. :)

[ulimator]

Please help! I really need to identify this car as soon as possible! Thank You very much in advance!

[LeonOfTheDead]

Please help! I really need to identify this car as soon as possible! Thank You very much in advance!

me too, I don't remember to have ever seen such a car.
reminds me of a Wiesmann, a Z4 and a Carrera GT all put together. :p

that soft top seems a temporary remedy until you find the nearest garage though

[ulimator]

+ one more:

[f6fhellcat13]

If there are any UCPers in the Swiss police they could see what kind of car "SZ-28226" is. :rolleyes:

[ekladams]

hello my name is Jim Adamopoulos founder and owner of zandonella .For your info the car was designed by myself and a car designer in the USA we are currently finalizing the prototype

[LeonOfTheDead]

hello my name is Jim Adamopoulos founder and owner of zandonella .For your info the car was designed by myself and a car designer in the USA we are currently finalizing the prototype

it isn't the car posted above right?
I searched it on the internet and found some renderings of it.
if you have some more info and pics you could post them on a new thread and keep us informed on the development of the project, it seems kinda interesting.

Welcome on UCP! :)

[Ecnelis]

I searched it on the internet and found some renderings of it.
I found it too (Zandonella Motors - Coupe (http://www.go-gears.com/view_ad.php?ad_id=6850)), but it doesn't look like this roadster almost at all...

And car designed in USA, Australian company and tested with swiss plates? Quite tricky.

[faksta]

Ulimator has posted Zandonella some time ago with a request for an info, IIRC, so it's not the latest request. Look somewhere about a month ago or so.

[LeonOfTheDead]

I found it too (Zandonella Motors - Coupe (http://www.go-gears.com/view_ad.php?ad_id=6850)), but it doesn't look like this roadster almost at all...

And car designed in USA, Australian company and tested with swiss plates? Quite tricky.

it was just an "introducing question"...:)

[faksta]

it was just an "introducing question"...:)

I understood your post quite well, I was more referring to the next post made by Ecnelis :)
And the request, indeed placed by ulimator, was made much earlier then I supposed - http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/807815-post1308.html