A-rod positively linked to steroids...

[roosterjuicer]

Buster Olney: Linked to steroids, A-Rod tarnished forever - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=olney_buster&id=3890934)

pretty big deal. probably damages A-rod's already somewhat tarnished image.

what are your thoughts

[kingofthering]

If it's anything like Barry Bonds, they'll arrest the journalists and his lawyer will convince them to throw out most of the evidence.

[roosterjuicer]

If it's anything like Barry Bonds, they'll arrest the journalists and his lawyer will convince them to throw out most of the evidence.

good lawyering my friend...good lawyering.

[f6fhellcat13]

good lawyering my friend...good lawyering.
Is that why you're going to law school?
Your username seems to imply that you give steroids to chickens, though, not baseball players.

:D

[roosterjuicer]

Is that why you're going to law school?
Your username seems to imply that you give steroids to chickens, though, not baseball players.

:D

definitely not going to be a criminal attorney.

[blingbling]

i thought this was going to be about andy roddick

[roosterjuicer]

do people call andy roddick a-rod too?

on a semi related note, i just read that nascar is drug testing now, and one of the drugs they are testing for is steroids.

i feel like steroids would do nothing but hurt a racecar driver. they dont need too much physical strength, they dont need stuff to assist their recovery time. if anything i think the issues steroids cause with decision making and temperment would probably cause more of a hinderance than an aid for a racecar driver.

[coolieman1220]

a rod messed up the yankees and what they stood for.....

ever since he was acquired

[baddabang]

a rod messed up the yankees and what they stood for.....

ever since he was acquired


How so?

He tested positive in 2003 with the Texas Rangers and there is no proof that he has taken any steroids or performance enhancing drugs since then.

"We are disturbed by the allegations contained in the Sports Illustrated news story which was posted online this morning. Because the survey testing that took place in 2003 was intended to be non-disciplinary and anonymous, we can not make any comment on the accuracy of this report as it pertains to the player named."


There is still no real proof that he took them anyway. A few people with access happen to contact SI and out of 104 players they only mention Alex? Who are the others? I'll believe it when I see it in an official press release either by Alex, Boras, the Yankees or the MLB.

[scottie300z]

I'll believe it when I see it in an official press release either by Alex, Boras, the Yankees or the MLB.

Good luck with that.

[Kitdy]

Further proof that the Yankees suck.

[nopassn]

I would just like to be quoted as saying, A-Rod sucks.

Not because he's on the juice, but because he plays my 2nd least favorite sport.

[Kitdy]

Not because he's on the juice, but because he plays my 2nd least favorite sport.

Least favourite being?

[ScionDriver]

My answer? WHO CARES?! It was 6 YEARS ago. Guess what? 6 years ago MLB didn't do anything over positive tests in 2003. All this does is bring into further question the late 80s-early 2000s era of baseball. You can't assume anything about anyone from that era any more. As far as its concerned no one is clean. And maybe he won't get into the Hall down the road, much like McGuire or Clemans. It doesn't mean anything. This is only a big deal because he's a Yankees players. I hate the media.

[nopassn]

Least favourite being?

Soccer.

[werty]

Soccer.

I have to agree with that one....but idno, pro tenis is pretty boring

[baddabang]

I have to agree with that one....but idno, pro tenis is pretty boring

That and the PGA. I can go to the links and golf all day, but I cannot for the life of me watch it on TV.

[IBrake4Rainbows]

you want a boring "sport"....

Try watching Darts on TV.

[scottie300z]

you want a boring "sport"....

Try watching Darts on TV.

How does it compare to bowling?

[IBrake4Rainbows]

What sort of bowling....lawn bowls or ten pin?

[scottie300z]

What sort of bowling....lawn bowls or ten pin?

I had to look lawn bowls up. I was expecting some grassroots play while you drink lawn bowling played with over sized pins and a giant bowling ball that you actually get into. Instead I found something that looks less interesting to watch than a televised match of croquet.

[roosterjuicer]

A-Rod admits using performance-enhancers - MLB - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AtuAeRAf4tL4CyyhdE8XH145nYcB?slug=ap-rodriguez-steroids&prov=ap&type=lgns)

[baddabang]

Good luck with that.

want to eat your words? A-Rod admits steroid use in Texas | yankees.com: News (http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090209&content_id=3811116&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy)

Sad day for not only A-Rod but baseball. He seems to be relieved that its finally out there and he doesn't need to hide it. Hopefully it won't impact his performance this year.

[scottie300z]

want to eat your words? A-Rod admits steroid use in Texas | yankees.com: News (http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090209&content_id=3811116&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy)

Sad day for not only A-Rod but baseball. He seems to be relieved that its finally out there and he doesn't need to hide it. Hopefully it won't impact his performance this year.

mmmmm I love my own words.

[werty]

That and the PGA. I can go to the links and golf all day, but I cannot for the life of me watch it on TV.

Golf isnt too bad....I only watch Tiger on his last 3 of the last day of the biggest tournaments:p

[Rockefella]

This steroid era of baseball is going to be forever tarnished. Now that gAy-Rod tested positive no record is legitimate as far as people are concerned. Doesnt bother me much.. Baseball blows.

[IBrake4Rainbows]

Maybe they should just make everything legal and turn it into a no-holds barred grudge match. I mean, people still watch wrestling and thats obviously fake, why not fake baseball?

[roosterjuicer]

did anyone watch espn's interview with A-rod. i caught the first half this morning. i like to see him coming clean, but at the same time, he's not coming completely clean, he's skirting around stuff and trying to paint himself to be as innocent as possible.

[Rockefella]

did anyone watch espn's interview with A-rod. i caught the first half this morning. i like to see him coming clean, but at the same time, he's not coming completely clean, he's skirting around stuff and trying to paint himself to be as innocent as possible.

He was saying something about not knowing what he took exactly and that he doesn't know who he got it from because of all the nutritionists and trainers/doctors. Then he said some of the stuff that test positive in tests now could have been sold at GNC back in the day. Still think he's hiding stuff and feigning some innocence like your saying.

Some guy named Mark Wahu-Arali or something came on after and said what he tested positive for is a testosterone and growth hormone (IIRC) and wasn't even sold in the United States. Added that it DEFINITELY wasn't sold in GNC.

[henk4]

I hope Americans now start realising (after the Balco case) that doping was not a monopoly affair for ex-communist countries only..

[Wouter Melissen]

I hope Americans now start realising (after the Balco case) that doping was not a monopoly affair for ex-communist countries only..

Why would you think they don't get that?

[henk4]

Why would you think they don't get that?

because what "the others" did was always worse. I am not defending the State supported sport in the eastern bloc countries, just pointing out that they were not the only ones.

[Wouter Melissen]

because what "the others" did was always worse. I am not defending the State supported sport in the eastern bloc countries, just pointing out that they were not the only ones.

How is this 'hunch' related to this thread? I believe it was pretty well known that Baseball players were using dope, there just were no checks until 2003.

[roosterjuicer]

its just henk4 being henk4, any opportunity to rip on america, on or off topic, he will take it.

never mind the fact that people have been making bad noises about baseball players taking steroids for quite a while now

[Rockefella]

Steroids have been in sports for ages, be it American Football, baseball, olympics, etc. The problem that baseball has is that when an attempt was made to begin testing by Selig was made in 1993, albeit kind of half-heartedly, the Players Association disagreed and led to a difference of interests for the following decade. Once it started to get fired up again with the Barry Bonds fiasco and Balco, too little had been done by the time this blew out of proportion and both sides couldn't find a common ground to establish testing, punishment, or even legitimate cooperation with the players. That led to Congress having to step in and all of this brewing up to what it's become now. Front page newspaper headlines and huge media talking points.

It's a huge mess really that is being taken care of to the best of the MLB's ability as far as I'm concerned but sadly, it won't be good enough to the eyes of the public. If the MLB followed the NFL's example when steroids came into question roughly 20 years ago this problem would be nowhere near it's inflated state. The NFL Players Union and the NFL front office came to unison on substance testing and consequences rather quickly and behind closed doors. They never let it become the media circus that baseball is going through now.

On a final note, I feel for A-Rod and the players on that 'anonymous' list for being revealed (only Rodriguez for now but I wouldn't be surprised if the list was entirely released). At the time there would be no career punishment for the testing and it was to be kept completely anonymous for the league's study on doping in the sport and the guidelines they would have to set in the future. Because of all this, nothing is now sacred or even seems legitimate in the sport because of the tainted needle.

I know the above kind of contradicts my original post in this thread but I'm writing it as a sports fan, not a baseball fan.

[flabasha]

Yeah, that whole era of baseball should just be a write-off. I'm glad my San Francisco Giants didn't win the series in '02 with half the team juicing, but then again, the team that beat them, the Angels, turns out were juicing as well.

It just blows because all lifetime stats are pretty much ruined now.