The Worst Ever Supercar

[GrimaH]

Which supercar do you think was the worst ever built?

[Hell_Unleashed]

prob the countache...

[Rijoh]

prob the countache...
The Countach is the coolest (super)car ever build. It's bad to drive, but it just looks so awesome....
The DMC Delorean is very bad, if u consider that a supercar

[fpv_gtho]

Would have to be the Vector

[RaptoR]

Would have to be the Vector M12, it's so exaggerated that almost seems like "The Mean Machine" of the Wacky Races

[white devil]

prob the countache...

I WOULD N agree with that at allllll.... the countach was the first mid engine supercar

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

Toss up between the Enzo and Veyron

[Niko_Fx]

Would have to be the Vector

Yep, Same here... Also the Veyron.

Toss up between the Enzo and Veyron

Explain what's so bad about the Enzo that makes it qualify in your worst supercar list.

[Coventrysucks]

I WOULD N agree with that at allllll.... the countach was the first mid engine supercar

Apart from all the other mid engined supercars before it.

The Miura was the first.
That was awful as well. At 180mph it would try to take off!

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

I hate the way it looks, and how pointless it is. That is part of what makes the Veyron stupid- the inordinately high price tags on them. You pay a helluva lot for a fugly Enzo, or something that can't handle its power (proved when a Bugatti technician stuffed one when attempting 252mph- he fell short by 15mph!).

[white devil]

Apart from all the other mid engined supercars before it.

The Miura was the first.
That was awful as well. At 180mph it would try to take off!
OUPS SORY GOT confused between the countach and the miura :D

[:Exige:]

Jaguar XJ220!!!! It was developed crap, had extreme turbo lag, was too wide, not exactly well made .. it is renound for being the biggest flop in the car industry ever! I think Jeremy Clarkson also thought this was the worse supercar but I cant remember when he said it.

[carguy]

how come no 1 sai the carrara all 7000000000000 vertions! there all crap :eek:

[SlickHolden]

I really don't know any that have been failed ??
What about that think williams renault made that That big tarago lookalike thing ? thats all i can think of :)

[Rijoh]

Jaguar XJ220!!!! It was developed crap, had extreme turbo lag, was too wide, not exactly well made .. it is renound for being the biggest flop in the car industry ever! I think Jeremy Clarkson also thought this was the worse supercar but I cant remember when he said it.
It did make it into Need For Speed II, and it looks beautiful, so it isn't the worst ever supercar

[deffenbaugh03]

I hate the way it looks, and how pointless it is. That is part of what makes the Veyron stupid- the inordinately high price tags on them. You pay a helluva lot for a fugly Enzo, or something that can't handle its power (proved when a Bugatti technician stuffed one when attempting 252mph- he fell short by 15mph!).

I don't think those are very good reasons. Yea the bugatti may not be able to handle those speeds they said it could, but it can still handle just as high speeds as most other supercars right? Besides what are you talking about impracticality and being overpriced, its supercar man what do you expect?

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

Impracticality? Hmmm.... yea, but wot about the Aston Martin DB9 (£109,000 or so), TVRs (start from £36,000), Porsche? If we're talking about money here, hu in their right mind would pay freakin' £600,000 on some piece of crap! Oh, someone in their left mind...

[:Exige:]

It did make it into Need For Speed II, and it looks beautiful, so it isn't the worst ever supercar

So does the Countach ... Just because a car looks good doesnt mean its a decent car. Is the only point of your argument that it cant be bad because it looks good then??? You obviously do not know the horrors of the development of the car and why exactly it didnt sell and no-one liked it. I advise you put a search in Google about it and then you will see why.

Oh - and the Ford GT90 was in NFS2 .. which just happens to be another supercar failure that resulted in nothing whatsoever (so bad that Ford thought they'd do better by ressurecting the GT40 :D)

[Vaigra]

I really don't know any that have been failed ??
What about that think williams renault made that That big tarago lookalike thing ? thats all i can think of :)
the Renault Williams F1 Espace? lol

[fpv_gtho]

Jaguar XJ220!!!! It was developed crap, had extreme turbo lag, was too wide, not exactly well made .. it is renound for being the biggest flop in the car industry ever! I think Jeremy Clarkson also thought this was the worse supercar but I cant remember when he said it.


wouldnt the fact its wide be a good thing if its a supercar??

As for the GT90, that was a concept that simply never made it into production, same as the millions of other concepts produced by Ford and other companies. How does that make it a failure?

[Matra et Alpine]

the Renault Williams F1 Espace? lol
Be fair, it was only ever a one off technology demonstrator.

it was NEVER planned for any production - shame :)

[Matra et Alpine]

wouldnt the fact its wide be a good thing if its a supercar??

As for the GT90, that was a concept that simply never made it into production, same as the millions of other concepts produced by Ford and other companies. How does that make it a failure?
Reading anyone who ever drove it, it was a piece of junk. Handled awful, aerodymanics worked in the design software but not the real world. underpowered, under-braked, It never made it to production because it was so bad. When launched as a design it was touted by Ford as BEING their next supercar and successor to the GT40. ( Now "revisionist history" reports it as a concept only and never planned for production :) )

[NoOne]

My vote goes to the Veyron 16/4, too heavy, too powerful, too expensive, too much hype and speculation, and no delivery, that and its been a prototype for the last 3 or 4 years with still no hope of making production.

[Coventrysucks]

GT90 had a quad turbocharged V12 with 720bhp and 660lb ft torque.
I wouldn't neccessarily describe it as "underpowered".

However, IIRC, it was never actually driven with the 4 turbos engaged.

From a site about the GT90:
"It makes me angry to hear ignorant car fans who say Ford are low quality. Consumer Reports had Ford labeled as the most reliable domestic car company. Also, on average, Ford has more powerful cars than Dodge, Infiniti, chevy, and more. Trust me, I looked it up."

Can't argue with this guy, he looked it up!

[VtecMini]

However, IIRC, it was never actually driven with the 4 turbos engaged.
Yeah, I heard that one too. I think they ran it on 2 turbos in testing, cos they had no confidence in the chassis' ability to take the full power.

I remember seeing Clarkson driving it on tv. He spent most of his time either pointing and laughing at the stick on gauges and dials, or lambasting it's terrible handling whilst driving in excess of the 30mph (what sort of speed is that for a test drive in a "supercar"?) that the Ford team had deemed safe for the prototype.

[Vettribution87]

the Renault Williams F1 Espace? lol

ALL HALE THE WORLDS FASTEST PEOPLE MOVER!!!

I don’t know why they didn’t bring it into production. Especially when you consider the amount of impatient soccer moms there are zooming down the road during school hours.

I would have thought there would be a rather lucrative market for a 700-800HP van :rolleyes:

[Chinky_boi]

Impracticality? Hmmm.... yea, but wot about the Aston Martin DB9 (£109,000 or so), TVRs (start from £36,000), Porsche? If we're talking about money here, hu in their right mind would pay freakin' £600,000 on some piece of crap! Oh, someone in their left mind...
if you had 600,000. What would you buy? the CGT is the most beautiful machine ever made. A V10 mid engine producing 605HP. Ranked first in the Top Gear lap test. I wouldn't call that crap. You can't go wrong with that? the DB9 also is a very very beautiful machine. Even though it has paddle gear shifters but it handles well and looks stunning.

[KnifeEdge_2K1]

based on whether or not this rumor is true my answer will change

i heard that the mclaren f1 is NOT road legal, if this coems out to be true then this would be the worse supercar ever since it costs more then all ur expenses throughout the life of an average american (and they have the highest gdp per capita ... i think) and u wouldnt be able to drive it newhere

if the rumor is false then id have to go with ... any american muscle/super car

[taz_rocks_miami]

My vote would go to the original Porsche 911 Turbo, hear me out before freaking out. Yes Porsches are very well made, very comfortable, very fast every day cars. But the original 911 Turbo was a handfull in the corners with a novice or even an avarage driver behind the wheel since the rear end could swing out on you very easily in spirited driving. And most people who buy a super car buy with that intent.

I congratulate Porsche for taking care of that problem in the current versions. But the early ones were bad handling wise.

[fpv_gtho]

If its the 930 911 turbo, then i believe they also suffered pretty bad turbo lag, followed up by the power being delivered pretty damn quick

[taz_rocks_miami]

If its the 930 911 turbo, then i believe they also suffered pretty bad turbo lag, followed up by the power being delivered pretty damn quick

That's the one, imagine if the turbo KICKED in when you were in the middle of a corner, YIKES!!!! :eek:

[fpv_gtho]

well hopefully their early handling issues prevented too many people from experiencing this at too great a speed

[IBrake4Rainbows]

I'm gonna say the Yamaha OX-99 supercar. Horrid.

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

if you had 600,000. What would you buy? the CGT is the most beautiful machine ever made. A V10 mid engine producing 605HP. Ranked first in the Top Gear lap test. I wouldn't call that crap. You can't go wrong with that? the DB9 also is a very very beautiful machine. Even though it has paddle gear shifters but it handles well and looks stunning.

If I had that kind of money, I'd get lots of guitars and amps, an Audi RS6, an Aston DB9, and save the rest for debts and bills.

[Rijoh]

So does the Countach ... Just because a car looks good doesnt mean its a decent car. Is the only point of your argument that it cant be bad because it looks good then??? You obviously do not know the horrors of the development of the car and why exactly it didnt sell and no-one liked it. I advise you put a search in Google about it and then you will see why.

Oh - and the Ford GT90 was in NFS2 .. which just happens to be another supercar failure that resulted in nothing whatsoever (so bad that Ford thought they'd do better by ressurecting the GT40 :D)
Ehm a supercar is mostly about looks and power, to own other people on the road. And the XJ220 and Countach just look superb, so at least 50% is good about them :D Of course driveability is also important, but with those looks it's less an isue...

[Coventrysucks]

i heard that the mclaren f1 is NOT road legal

You're almost right.

McLaren would never be as stupid to make a car that cost many millions to develop that couldn't be driven on the road.

So it is leagal in Europe, possibly the Middle East (IIRC to be road leagal in some Arab states all you need is a hand brake), Japan...

Not America though.

They, along with a host of other incredibly fast cars (Mercedes CLK GTR, Porsche 959, Bugatti EB110 etc) were not homologated for the US.

To get around this a Connecticut firm called Ameritech (nothing to do with McLaren) set about importing engines and rolling chassis, then assembling them in the US so that it would qualify as a "kit-car", and therefore be road-leagal. Changes included deleting the passenger seats and adding some huge bumpers.

It is suggested that they bought in six cars, then the government pointed out that it still wasn't really a kit-car, so they stopped the project.

In 2000 the "Show-or-Display" law came into play after incredibly rich people inc. Bill Gates, Paul Allen, and Ralph Lauren, who wanted to actually drive their expensive supercars.

"The new law allowed one to import an unhomologated car to the US without any constraints from the Department of Transportation, if that car was of technological or historical significance. In order for the car to be driven on the road it still had to pass an emissions test. Cars imported under this provision may only be driven 2,500 miles per annum. Quite a few cars have qualified for this status, including the EB110, XJ220, 959, Z1, CLK-GTR, the last fifty old-style Minis, the last air-cooled RS. This law is also why F1s are now legal in the States, and approximately twenty now reside in North America."

Ameritech's "kits" are still illeagal for road use, unless you wanted to re-import them.

[Chinky_boi]

If I had that kind of money, I'd get lots of guitars and amps, an Audi RS6, an Aston DB9, and save the rest for debts and bills.
WTF NOW? at first you say you hated the DB9 and now you want to have it?

[lithuanianmafia]

WTF NOW? at first you say you hated the DB9 and now you want to have it?
ya, i'm confused too :confused::confused::confused:

[:Exige:]

The XJ220 was too wide ... ask anyone who owned one. It also had huge turbolag (proven on one of my Clarkson videos to be about 6 seconds leaving you at 70mph for that long in 3rd). The GT90 concept was capable of 90mph (another Clarkson thingy :rolleyes:) and still handled boringly ... its a bad supercar because Ford spent millions trying to make it work .. in the ned they gave up and made the GT .. imagine what would have happened if they just made the GT from the beginning.

The only Porsche 911 was an absolutley terrible car ... all old 911's for that matter. Its mainly because the engine was in the wrong place .. still did reasonably well for Stock brokers :D Someone said to me "Engine in the back - they thought it couldnt be done .. thats how good Porsche are" Yea .. well it took them a over 50 years :)

I overlooked the 911 / 901 so thats my new choice :D