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10-10-2003, 02:42 AM
Does anybody know something about the new rules, that should be released for 2004?
When they donīt do it in the next time it will be to late for the teams to build cars ( for that it is probably to late).
and whats with the old cars like the R8, i heared they should be allowed to race in le mans 2004.
10-12-2003, 01:36 AM
as far as i know .. yes .. they will run R8 .. private teams
also the MG or Zytek car will also be in LPM1 . unless they wil modifie them and take them to 750kg .. also LMP will have some tunnels under the car . reducing some effects . so it is rumoured to be a little slower
as far as GTS is .. they will run 2002 restrictors
10-13-2003, 04:00 AM
do you know any details of the reglement? like is it allowed to run with 4.0 turbo engines and so on?
10-15-2003, 11:46 AM
yes as far as i know it max4.0 V8 turbo or 6.0 litre NA ...
check www.mulsannescorner.com for more info .. and i think it should be on the FIA website also .. off course the FIA rules ..
direct links ...
10-17-2003, 02:54 AM
Hey man, you are greate!!!!!!!
10-17-2003, 03:08 AM
Just read the rules.
They stopped the small prototypes. Is it allowed to built a closed small one??
Interesting thing with diesel engines but i donīt think 2004 will be a producer for this cars.
What are the differences about the engines in LMP1 (accept Restrictors, they lost 10% to last year, right?) about the pressure for supercharged engines?
10-17-2003, 10:23 AM
don't think so .. about close LMP750 .. and don't know about stoping them .. they will be slower . probably in 1-2 year slower then GTS ..
anout Diesel .. just after LeMans this year i heard a rumor about Ricardo&Judd .. thinking of builind a Diesel .. .. and Audi is said to build an R9 for 2005 ..
restrictors in 2004 i think will stay the same .. but GTS will be back to 2002 size ..
10-20-2003, 02:12 AM
Now when the 675`s (750) get competetive they stop them. When these cars get slower then the GTS they should stop them racing!! I anyway donīt understand why there were built the 675 a few years ago. I think the interests of the spectators will be on the big LMP and on the GTS. these are the series manufactors want to race in.
Are the 2002 restrictors smaller then zhe 2003?? GTS
10-20-2003, 07:50 AM
bigger .. and from 2005 i think they will allow carbon fibre GTS cars ...
675 .. indeed what a bit strange . couse they were not compatible with SR2 cars from the FIA ..
10-30-2003, 02:48 AM
they hope that the new super cars like carrera gt, enzo and so on will challange. but that means that they donīt build a prototype! i think the manufactors will prefer the gts because there they are racing with street cars.
isnīt the pagani zonda a carbon fibre car? but as i heard it has no chance against the C5-R aand so on at seebring.
The next le mans in 2004 seems to be boring in the LMP 900 category because of the top teams only Audi will run with some private R8 and i donīt know anybody to stop them, because there are no private bentleys.
10-30-2003, 04:58 AM
againts the C5 ... lol .. maybe you sould say 550 ..... :)
also .. the GTS "supercars" .. carbon fibre cars .. can go for the overall win . if they want .. meaning could run in GTP class .. with 900 kg .. :)
10-30-2003, 09:23 AM
thats very intresting!!
but means no future for the GTP
do you know anything about private bentleys, i not but who knows...
i think in 2004 the GT class will be very interesting. the gap between porsche and ferrari is so close...
do you know anything about other GT cars except the don panoz car (forgotten the name) which is too slow or the TVR cars?
hope to see this in 2005
10-31-2003, 10:27 AM
no no . the GTP class . its the one that many contructors intend to build .. the new GTS cars . in GTP form .. wil be faster then the full GTS cars .. but still will not have the pace of the GTP .. but can challenge if they run without problems ...
the Panoz GTR-1 . will make it's final race at LM 1000km . this november .. and Panoz is building a GTS car . using a Audi turbo engine ...
the news about TVR are not great .. :( :( or Morgan .. :(
GT in 2004 .. lately the Ferrari outpaced the GT3-RS .. but LeMans is a different race ... they will need more development ... maybe it will be on pace ... :)
11-06-2003, 05:32 AM
will there be a new class for the carbon fibre GTS cars?
one for the "old" and one for the "new" ones?
i think that Lambo will challenge the GT class, too.
maybe not with support from Audi and so on but maybe some private teams will build a real race car out of the challange Gellardo. The small teams like TVR and Morgan, i think they run out of competition because they are too slow. the only "private"
car which could get a chance in a few years will be the Spyker C8,
because they have planned this a long time...
The panoz GTR-1 projekt is stopped after only one year?
the car was not competetiv, yet but this is not cars fault.
I heard the team GO from JAP. will race with 2 R8 at le mans 2004
11-06-2003, 06:08 AM
no it;s not a different class . but different regulations .. those cars have less modifications then the road cars. and the numbers in wich they have to build them is lower
i think its team Goh .. and they had one this years too
11-10-2003, 04:41 AM
so the "new " GTS are near to their road cars, maybe nearer than the GTS now.
GT will be very interesting next year.
the 360 beaten the GT3 the first time at cicuit bugatti.
but the other GT cars were without a chance!!
11-10-2003, 05:32 AM
the 360GT already beat the GT3 in the last two FIA GT races .. and the team that run al LeMans 1000 is not the best .. they could do even better ... the Spyker run decent . i think ... adn both the Morgan and the Spyker look very good .. it would be sad not to be on the track ...
it's like the Saleen .. it is homologated as a supercar .. i think ... but the road going saleen . is more advanced compared to the 550 Maranello ...
apendix j article 257 and 258
258A .. sports cars
11-21-2003, 01:46 AM
i read the article. you are right.
but i wondred a little when i read about the air restrictors.
they can choose, for excample, for an 4 litre N/A engine one restrictor with 45,6 mm or two restrictors with 32,6 mm each.
that means 20,4 mm more fresh air with 2 restrictors.
Who donīt choose two ones????????????????!!!!!!!!!
have you seen some pictures of the 2004 safety things, looks a bit strange but when it works....
11-21-2003, 11:38 AM
well . the things about restrictors .. . i don;t think 2X32.6=1X65.2 .. for sure .. those figures are done to make the engines power output at the same level ..
about the Lola .. LMP2 . yeah i saw it on ten-tenths and Mulsannescorner .. and it is a bit strage with the double roll-bars ..and the lights look very audi like ...
also check this
11-26-2003, 03:48 AM
of course 2x32,6 isnīt the same like 65,2 mm of course of the air streams and so on... but it looks a bit strange to me.
i think very much cars will look like the R8 in future. succes is covered.
man, these model guys are really fast!! the car wasnīt built yet,
and they start to sell models of it!
when this car should run for maserati, they will prefer the second car beacause the other one looks to Enzo simillar.
11-29-2003, 04:23 AM
and will not be build .. don;t think the car will look to much like those :) ...
and btw prodrive will build a GTS car for Aston for the 2005 LeMans
warning . autosport needs registration .. it only takes 2 minutes but probably you can find info on other sites :)
11-30-2003, 03:50 AM
and a new TVR
12-04-2003, 05:19 AM
i think they will take the smaller Vanquish or the DB9
TVR, too? they should take the Speed 12 for racing!
are these both cars for FIA GT, too or only for Le Mans?
hope there will be more firms likeAston ,TVR, Lambo making such decissions in the next time
01-10-2004, 06:59 AM
new info about the new TVR .. unfortunatly only for the British GT
01-10-2004, 07:05 AM
Maserati WP - a point on the project
We propose to you to give a progress report on the progress report of the WP project initiated by Maserati. Not of Trofeo Light but of the "supercar" announced for 2004. A denomination which we prefer still used with quotation marks insofar as any remainder still to be written on the category.
Always it is that the general design of the car is stopped. According to our information, if before takes again certain features characteristic of the models of road, the back would be "prominent". The engine, V12 in central position postpones, turns to the bench. The project did not take delay on initial planning since the first turns of wheels are envisaged during January 2004. For an arrival in competition always programmed in September of the same year. This project is 100% Maserati and does not appeal has any knowledge to make external as it was the case our F575 GTC with N-Technology or Italtechnica for Trofeo Light.
The car, of which we are unaware of the denomination, will be presented officially at the press on 4 next March in opening of the living room of Geneva. Two models of the WP will be presented at this occasion: one of series and a second intended for the competition with different tone of body. On this subject, the red color, even in a darker tone drawing on the Bordeaux wine, will not be taken again in competition.
01-11-2004, 05:50 AM
Ok Dasmodell (oranyone else whocouldprehapsanswer this)have you heard anything about the antions cup 427 holden monaro entering the FIA championship or the 24 hour races? Apprently the car was bought by paul stoddart (the owner of the minardi f1 team and an australian as well for those who dont know) and i was wondering if you heard anything on if it will happen or not :confused:
01-11-2004, 07:27 AM
havn;t heard a thing about it .... but i don;t think it eligible under the FIA GT rules ... and even less the ACO rules .. but i will try to find out for sure
i;ve checked the fia list of homologated vehicles .. and the Monaro is not in it .. so .. sorry .. it will not be able to compete ..
01-11-2004, 07:00 PM
try telling that to Gary Rogers, he believes those bloody Monaro's can do anything
01-12-2004, 04:01 AM
No need tobe sorry its just out of morbid curiosity the man FPV talked about garry rodgersis a pig headed little biggot and idlove to see him get burned by being blown off.
01-12-2004, 04:18 AM
well if he gets shut down at lemans hopefully it will follow through with him being shut down at nations cup. i think hes got a legitimate cause in V8supercars though
01-12-2004, 04:54 AM
is the maserati car stoped noW ??
i HEARED that the JMB team (FIA GT) will get one of these cars at the end of the Season.
01-12-2004, 06:12 AM
i think the main problem is the homologation . and for that . he needs the factory to do a number of cars(wich they probably do) but they must ask for the homologation to the fia
yes JMB will get the new maserati later during the 2004 season
01-15-2004, 09:26 AM
all other teams built a race car out of a street car, maserati goes different ways!!
the car looks more like an LM GTP prototype for Le mans than like an GT(S) car !
01-16-2004, 08:57 AM
well . .. they intend to build 100 cars .. and only 25 are enough for FIA GT supercars regs