Is Toyota really still that good?

[NSXType-R]

Originally Posted by IVEgotTHEblues

The Sienna is a North American model, let's keep that in mind here. If you take a look at the Odyssey (which my auntie owns) you will see that there are a lot of plastics as well. Don't get me started with American brand minivans!

And every car manufacturer has their own problems, not just Toyota, let's keep that in mind as well. We could go on and on about Ford, Chrysler, or whatnot.

I've never sat in an Odyssey before so I wouldn't know. Are you referring to the old or new one? I heard the new Odyssey set a new benchmark for mini-vans which they stole from the Sienna. You need to realize that Honda keeps a separate Odyssey in the Asian market and Toyota does too (having multiple models too). I just can't help but wonder why are they so selfish?

[Alastor]

Originally Posted by NSXType-R

You need to realize that Honda keeps a separate Odyssey in the Asian market and Toyota does too (having multiple models too). I just can't help but wonder why are they so selfish?

It really sucks that they don’t offer both version over seas because the Japanese spec Odyssey is a lot cooler than the US version. When I was over in Japan it seemed like everyone had a customized Odyssey. I am not a big mini-van fan, but by the end of my trip I wanted to get one imported.

Here is picture of one that was at a rest stop on the way to the airport.

[kingofthering]

Originally Posted by Alastor

It really sucks that they don’t offer both version over seas because the Japanese spec Odyssey is a lot cooler than the US version. When I was over in Japan it seemed like everyone had a customized Odyssey. I am not a big mini-van fan, but by the end of my trip I wanted to get one imported.

Here is picture of one that was at a rest stop on the way to the airport.

Mmmmm I'll take one in black with the Modulo billion spoke(so it seems) wheels

[Gtek-i]

Siennas still suck...and they suck more when compared to the JP Oddyssey.

[NSXType-R]

Originally Posted by Alastor

It really sucks that they don’t offer both version over seas because the Japanese spec Odyssey is a lot cooler than the US version. When I was over in Japan it seemed like everyone had a customized Odyssey. I am not a big mini-van fan, but by the end of my trip I wanted to get one imported.

Here is picture of one that was at a rest stop on the way to the airport.

That's an old one. The new ones look even better.

[NSXType-R]

Originally Posted by Alastor

It really sucks that they don’t offer both version over seas because the Japanese spec Odyssey is a lot cooler than the US version. When I was over in Japan it seemed like everyone had a customized Odyssey. I am not a big mini-van fan, but by the end of my trip I wanted to get one imported.

Here is picture of one that was at a rest stop on the way to the airport.

The new one looks even better. That picture is an old one. Try looking in the hideout for the new JDM Odyssey.

[Alastor]

Yea, I saw a lot of the new ones too, and I agree they are a lot better. Unfortunately, I did not have a digital camera until the last couple of days I was there, so that is the only digital picture I have of an Odyssey.

Here are a few more picture that I took walking around trying to get the hang of the digital camera.

[adrenaline]

Toyota is not losing it's quality, they have merely had a few recalls of late, nothing compared to recalls recently by Ford and GM.

Also, Ford recruited Toyota's quality expert. She (or he, I forget) found 181 quality issues during the development of the (unreleased) Ford Edge. So you can expect the new Edge to be on top of the quality podium.

[NSXType-R]

Originally Posted by Alastor

Yea, I saw a lot of the new ones too, and I agree they are a lot better. Unfortunately, I did not have a digital camera until the last couple of days I was there, so that is the only digital picture I have of an Odyssey.

Here are a few more picture that I took walking around trying to get the hang of the digital camera.

Wow, that fourth picture looked like a Subaru Baja-ed Scion Xb. Very strange.