What divides people into brand loyalty

[fpv_gtho]

well it felt a bit more than that, but i didnt get the chance to hop out the car and take a look. at skyline, its not just having to turn in before you see the corner that needs worrying, you also need to worry about the glare from the sun which got pretty bad when i was there. coming down the mountain the corners are decieving because right on the curbs and against the concrete walls its like the camber of the road dips right in

[SHAKER]

well imagine driving flat chat on the top of the mountain with 400hp and little bicycle tyres with no fences along the mountain edge....for 500 miles!.thats the way they use to do it!

[fpv_gtho]

thats just....downright scary. i'd hate to imagine what it was like when they crashed into each other or crashed into trees, it was bad enough when i saw the footage of moffats falcon going off the top and DJ going through the trees

[SHAKER]

without doubt the most scariest crash at bathurst was the phase 111 of brown barrel rolling at high speed down conrod straight along the armco fencin,he escaped with just a black eye, the car was completly written off , ironacilly he barrel rolled a phase 2 the year before causing the famous pile out which wiped out a lot of the field......glad he never raced a phase 4, id hate to imagine where he would of ended up lol

[fpv_gtho]

i think i saw the footage of one of those, but i wasnt looking for the differences between an XW and XY so i couldnt say which it was, but im pretty sure they sell a scale model of the car on the armco fencing

[SHAKER]

they sell the a modell of the car after it rolled on the fence?....well it would of looked nothing like a car...except maybe for the rear end.

[fpv_gtho]

well i know they sell a model of a car on its roof with some armco fencing right through the middle of its roof and the car bowed over like a banana

[SHAKER]

well that would be the one.any pics of it on the net?

[fpv_gtho]

i dunno, i just saw it i think in unique cars a while ago so i dont even know whos making it, you might get lucky and find it on biante's site

[SHAKER]

collectable classics are making some good die cast models now, the guy one of the automotive shops in the shopping mall said that they were actually better quality then the biante models?

[fpv_gtho]

well at the time biante was the only company i could think of, but im sure if you look hard enough you'll find plenty of top quality model companies. i think what made the HO on its roof so special was it was presented as a chunk of the track, not just the upside down car

[SHAKER]

well sounds like an intersting concept, focusing on the track and not on the car?..well i remember in 98 biante released some gtho models signed by moffat and they sold for about 250 dollars, last i heard one sold for a thousand dollars...(that was a few years ago to)

[fpv_gtho]

were those models of all 4 HO models, all in red with back stripes? if they are i think ive seen them before

[SHAKER]

well im pretty sure moffat only signed the phase"3" model as thats the one that gave him the bathurst win.....yes im still not over the 1969 loss to holden when moffat should of won that one to!eventhough i wasnt even born back then lol

[fpv_gtho]

what happened then that makes you think moffat shouldve won