New Ford Escape...

[IBrake4Rainbows]

I don't like the wheels, and the exterior's 'mini-explorer' look won't do it any favours, but that interior ain't half bad - the wood looks contemporary and non-plastic, which marks a nice change.

Would I buy one? No. but i think other people will.

[SlickHolden]

They almost nailed the interior there minus one thing, Where the vents are and it's wood grain that should have come to meet the centre console like holden and ford do with there cars, And maybe a steering wheel? But i like brighter colours more appealing now a days they are, Yeah you can see Territory in the lights and it's slightly in the overall look as much as they could do without making the territory.
Hey them dials look VY But they look good in it.
I wish Aussie built cars would use the blinkers on the mirrors some day it really keeps your eyes up higher in stead of looking low down.
It's better then the old thing forsure hope it runs better to.

They called it a AU?? Action utility now i get it.

[adrenaline]

Originally Posted by SlickHolden

I wish Aussie built cars would use the blinkers on the mirrors some day it really keeps your eyes up higher in stead of looking low down.

*Screams out E8*....well hopefully anyway

It's better then the old thing forsure hope it runs better to.

You get taiwan engineering on the mechanical side (Dont know if thats good or bad) and a whole 1kW increase

They called it a AU?? Action utility now i get it.

Just wondering if ford called the '99 falcon "AU" because AU is the chemical symbol for gold....just a thought!! Then there was COPPERhead...Im sensing a pattern here!!! (Or maybe I'm really bored)

[SlickHolden]

Originally Posted by ADRENALINE

*Screams out E8*....well hopefully anyway


You get taiwan engineering on the mechanical side (Dont know if thats good or bad) and a whole 1kW increase



Just wondering if ford called the '99 falcon "AU" because AU is the chemical symbol for gold....just a thought!! Then there was COPPERhead...Im sensing a pattern here!!! (Or maybe I'm really bored)

I feel a song coming onn..... You better stay away from copper head road


They got a whole 1kw! Wooooooo I'm going to them i need 1 also

Someone said the VE was going to have the blinkers on the mirrors but i cant see that anywhere maybe next time

[adrenaline]

Originally Posted by SlickHolden

Someone said the VE was going to have the blinkers on the mirrors but i cant see that anywhere maybe next time

The only VE mirrors we have seen are carry over. I doubt that they would use VZ mirrors on the VE (Its not like they're running on a tight budget...) So theres still a chance of new VE mirrors...

[Mr. Jinx]

Originally Posted by SlickHolden

They called it a AU?? Action utility now i get it.

I think its the website who did that, just to signify this is destined for the Australian market, since they don't have an Australian section on their site.

I think the model designation is ZC.

[fpv_gtho]

Originally Posted by ADRENALINE

The only VE mirrors we have seen are carry over. I doubt that they would use VZ mirrors on the VE (Its not like they're running on a tight budget...) So theres still a chance of new VE mirrors...

I thought they confirmed awhile ago the VZ mirrors were carryover...

If Ford stick them in for '08, Holden could have them lined up for VF, or wait till 2010-ish with the mid life model, provided theyre still working on an 8 year cycle

[PerfAdv]

It looks the same as before except for grill and headlights.

I like the center console design. The interior looks more like the Mercury Mariner, a nicer re-badged Escape.

Also, for 2005 Mazda Tribute got this interior minus the super-modern looking HVAC/stereo controls...

[Mr. Jinx]

They are actually the same, but just silver on the Escape. Kind of a role reversal considering the BA/ZB Escape had a black centre console, and the Mazda had a silver one

I think I posted the Tribute interior pic in one of the earlier pages.

[SlickHolden]

Originally Posted by Mr. Jinx

I think its the website who did that, just to signify this is destined for the Australian market, since they don't have an Australian section on their site.

I think the model designation is ZC.

Ohh yep i see now Silly me must have been the hit to the head last night

Originally Posted by fpv_gtho

I thought they confirmed awhile ago the VZ mirrors were carryover...

If Ford stick them in for '08, Holden could have them lined up for VF, or wait till 2010-ish with the mid life model, provided theyre still working on an 8 year cycle

I wonder by VF will we see the full torana front end?
I had a blew with some GM guys on the GM insiders. They all won't a peace of what holden has + cheap. My one and only question was whats in it for holden? You would have thought i started a international fight.
Many said these things.
1: Cheaper development.
2: Lower cost at the dealers.
3: Larger profits.
4: Helping GM out worldwide.
5: More Aussie jobs.
6: More options standard offered at cheaper prices.
bla bla bla.

I said there is nothing cheaper, There was no real help in the development on the Commodore, There was a helping hand with the statesman, Holden can't be a single hand in helping GM out, They shouldn't be used and dragged down, They laid of a whole shift, More content is going overseas, The VE is about the same spec or slightly more across the range, It's more expensive, Fairenought the suppliers they do have will get more work then ever before with more exports.
But overall there is nothing for Holden and Australia it's all to be honest GM/NA. Went down like a KKK member in Harlem.

Maybe the next all new Commodore might get some help in the development but that is a long time away. Something as global as the Commodore should give Holden a guarantee to build here for a long time.

I had some tell me that i should be happy to have holden share there cars, I said nowhere did i say i don't want holden to export or share the platform they just should get something in return, One guy apologised on behalf of all Australians for me I went ell crappy on him, I wasn't rude flaming or anything nothing, But i did let that bloke have it

[adrenaline]

Originally Posted by fpv_gtho

I thought they confirmed awhile ago the VZ mirrors were carryover...

OOPS...Dammit I must have missed that