Ford Or Holden???

[fpv_gtho]

Its DOHC like the 4.6 and 5.4 are, as i said before it gets its extra capacity from a 4mm bigger bore than the 4.6. Basically Ford doesnt sell it in any current vehicles, you order the engine through the Ford Racing Performance Parts Catalogue, which is a bit like a do it yourself SVT or FPV type setup

[Falcon500]

If your looking at it from a tech point of view yes....but it makes more power effectly and useing the older idea of doing it simply....but it was you who told me the new ones going to use the same tech (and hopfully more) on the new design....dont get too antsy now

And if you really want to know have a squiz at the ford motorsport page i had a look and i enjoyed it you reach it through www.ford.com they have news articles an a full catalouge and it was intresting to find out alot of these crates are avalible from the factory

[fpv_gtho]

Well what i had heard was the 4V heads going onto the 6.2L engine were going to be designed to be VCT capable, afterall the 3V heads in the XT are yet the XR8 and GT are still working on a fixed cam profile. That would explain why many people will tell you the 3V Barra220 feels stronger down low than the BOSS290, despite having 400nm at 1000rpm. Thats more of a result though of the U231 Cobra heads on the XR8 and GT were about a year or 2 behind in development compared to the 3V heads that debuted with the latest F150. Regardless of whether the 6.2 is on or not, you'd think that the next generatioin of MOD 4V heads WILL be VCT capable.

[Falcon500]

Well id expect it too....i wouldent mind seeing twin spark and sever over haul on the valve sizes too

[charged]

VCT wont have a dramatic effect on the 5.4 because of the long stroke,might make it snappier down low,but it will still run out of puff up high due to piston speed,I think fords best option to combat hsv would be a supercharged version,so it will produce mountains of punch down low and increase the kilowatts by 40 or so,dont know if they have a trans that would handle that sort of torque though

[Falcon500]

go the mustang box....it should bolt right up.....

[fpv_gtho]

Theyve got the T-56 manual now which is basically what theyve stuck on the supercharged 4.6 Mustanges stateside, but later in the year they'll also be getting the 6 speed auto that should be strong enough to hook up to the Typhoon by all rights.

The VCT whether it gives small or big gains, will still allow valve overlap up high and give respectable low end performance at least. There is no doubt though that the easiest way to fill a long stroke is forced induction though

[Falcon500]

And lest not forget it would be a tad easier on the hip pocket when it comes time to visit the bowser (even if again even slightly every little bit helps) and think how the brochures will look NOW WITH VCT! offering XX amont more kw and nm and saves X ammount per 100 km and it leaves the thing whats holden got 2 valves per cylender and a sigle cam (nothing wrong with it but you got to admit it doesnt sound as flash)

[charged]

Where has Blue Supra gone havent seen him much on the forums lately

[charged]

Originally Posted by Falcon500

And lest not forget it would be a tad easier on the hip pocket when it comes time to visit the bowser (even if again even slightly every little bit helps) and think how the brochures will look NOW WITH VCT! offering XX amont more kw and nm and saves X ammount per 100 km and it leaves the thing whats holden got 2 valves per cylender and a sigle cam (nothing wrong with it but you got to admit it doesnt sound as flash)

The performance gains will only be modest though,maybe 5%,it all comes down to outright hp or put the falcon on a major diet

[fpv_gtho]

Well in the case of the Barra182, thats using its VCT for fuel economy rather than power, the XR6T has a different program to use with the 6psi boost as does the F6 which has each cam working independantly with the 9psi. So if Ford were to factory supercharge the engine further down the track, the VCT would further help them with that as well. Its alot of small gains found all over the place that adds up in the end

[fpv_gtho]

Originally Posted by charged

Where has Blue Supra gone havent seen him much on the forums lately

The new school year's been keeping him busy at work and i guess his girlfriend's been keeping him busy at home

[SlickHolden]

Originally Posted by dovoxr8

Well i think many people get the wrog impresion on this.
Yes i think Holden should always remember that they ARE apart of GM.
Also Holden Shuv it in our face about how aussie they are.
When Holden (Chevrolet) first came here there car parts would fit on almost any chev car at the time!
And now they STILL do not make there own engines here.
Ford are the only car maker that have a v8 production line in Aus.
I think if you asked around many people would say Ford is more Aussie than Holden.
The trouble is if all the normal Fans found out just how yank they are they would think twice about how aussie Holden realy are.
(I think if you look in the records Ford Australia has been here longer)

I just love people that come on sign up to only flame, I could argue all day with you on this subject and get you on a TKO but guess what i can't be ****ed learn a bit more first

[Blue Supra]

Originally Posted by fpv_gtho

The new school year's been keeping him busy at work and i guess his girlfriend's been keeping him busy at home

work is alright now, its slowed down heaps so i might be able to make more then 5 posts pd. feels good someone noticed me dropping off I think Karrmans shot past me on post count and slicks chasing me pretty quickly.

yeh at home i dont have much spare PC time anymore a 6.2L Falcon would be awesome, are the guys stateside insane or something?

[fpv_gtho]

Originally Posted by Blue Supra

Im sure its not all moans, grumbles and complaining though

As for the yanks and the 6.2.......is that a serious question Either way theres a mob called Sean Hyland Motorsport that make a 6L version of the engine with the 94mm bore thats about 70kg lighter than the cast iron block and alot stronger apparently, so Ford should just use that. People have been getting them to rev to 8000rpm in the states