German cars VS American cars

[Swissbeatz]

This thread has been made for confronting German car against American cars.
The rules:

1-You must compare cars from the same categories (ex: Mercedes E-Class can't be confronted to a Chevy Cavalier, but a Cadillac Seville)

2- When you confront cars you must create a post with pictures of the both cars and you must create a poll ex: (which one do you like BMW 3-series or Cadillac CTS)

3- A SUV must be confronted to another SUV (ex: BMW X5 VS Cadillac Escalade)

4- American cars = all the brand mark that an American group holds (Ex: Ford owns Jaguar so Jaguar is considered as an American car (it's just for the game))
Idem for German cars

So now let's have fun....

[Swissbeatz]

...Just thought I'd note that despite being owned by Ford, Jaguar is still a British Company

EDIT: Just moved this thread to car comparison...

[lfb666]

Cadillac CTS-V - 2004:

Engine
Cylinders: V8
Displacement: 5667 cc
Horsepower: 400 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 395 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm

Performance
0-60 mph: 4.6 sec
Top Speed: 155 mph
Price: $49,995

Audi S4 - 2003

Engine:
Cylinders: 8
Displacement: 4163 cc
Horsepower: 344 bhp @ 7000 rpm
Torque: 302 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm

Perfomance
0-60 mph: 5.0 sec
Top Speed: 155 mph
Price: $45,000

[lfb666]

I wanted to compare Cadillac Allante with Audi 80 Cabriolet, but I didn't find the specifications of Cadillac Allante.

[lfb666]

Cadillac XLR - 2004

Engine
Type: V8
Displacement: 4565 cc
Horsepower: 320 bhp @ 6400 rpm
Torque: 310 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
Redline: 6700 rpm

Performance
0-60 mph: 5.6 sec
0-100 mph: 13.3 sec
Top Speed: 155 mph (limited)
Price: $75,435

Mercedes-Benz SL 500 - 2003

Engine
Type: V8
Displacement: 4996 cc
Horsepower: 306 bhp @ ---- rpm
Torque: 295 lb-ft @ 2700 rpm
0-60 mph: 6.2 sec
Top Speed: 155 mph

[Egg Nog]

Moved to car comparison...let's try to keep these in the right forum, here...

I think I should point out that despite being owned by Ford, Jaguar still operates as a British Company...

[Batmobile_Turbo]

Mercedes-Benz still should be a german company even though it is owned by Daimler-Chrysler, Mercedes-Benz is as german as sauerkraut.

i think a fair comparison would be the VW new Beetle V.S. the Cavalier
okay then, both are 4-cylinder fornt wheel drive, both are in the mid 10-20k range but the VW is better looking and more popular, and has more quality and performance. does everyone agree if i say the VW is better?

[Batmobile_Turbo]

Originally Posted by Swissbeatz

...Just thought I'd note that despite being owned by Ford, Jaguar is still a British Company

EDIT: Just moved this thread to car comparison...

even though i like jaguar more than BMW, i'll have to go with the BMW becaus i heard that the Jag S-type is kind of crappy.

[SL500]

Originally Posted by Batmobile_Turbo

Mercedes-Benz still should be a german company even though it is owned by Daimler-Chrysler

what do you mean?
daimler-chrysler didnt own the benz,daimler benz and chrysler(include dodge and chrysler)are just working toghether

[Swissbeatz]

first daimler-benz was a german company. This is the Deutsche-Bank who owns this compagny, second Daimler-Benz has not consolidates with Chrysler, it was simply a takeover bid. An now shareholders from Chrysler are not very happy cause it was simply a racket.
So we can conclude that Daimler-Chrysler is a german company.

And in second, I know that Jaguar is still an english company but Americans don't have luxury cars like BMW or Benz. Sorry but a Cadillac is not considered like a luxury car in Europa. It's why I have put Jaguar as an American car. IT JUST FOR THIS GAME.

[Batmobile_Turbo]

Originally Posted by Swissbeatz

first daimler-benz was a german company. This is the Deutsche-Bank who owns this compagny, second Daimler-Benz has not consolidates with Chrysler, it was simply a takeover bid. An now shareholders from Chrysler are not very happy cause it was simply a racket.
So we can conclude that Daimler-Chrysler is a german company.

And in second, I know that Jaguar is still an english company but Americans don't have luxury cars like BMW or Benz. Sorry but a Cadillac is not considered like a luxury car in Europa. It's why I have put Jaguar as an American car. IT JUST FOR THIS GAME.

why don't you consider a Cadillac to be a Luxury car in Europe?

[DiabloGTR]

And in second, I know that Jaguar is still an english company but Americans don't have luxury cars like BMW or Benz. Sorry but a Cadillac is not considered like a luxury car in Europa. It's why I have put Jaguar as an American car. IT JUST FOR THIS GAME.

I consider you a jackass.

Anyways, I think comparing entire car companies of different nations is stupid. It's not going to solve anything, and your saying bullshit like, "Cadillac is not considered like a luxury car in Europa."
You damn well know that your beloved German car companies wouldn't be anywhere without the US market, because a major part of their sales are in America, thats why this topic is retarded.
If your trying to bash the United States, please find another way.

[Egg Nog]

Originally Posted by DiabloGTR

If your trying to bash the United States, please find another way.

You saying this is just about as paranoid as the United States' national security policy

Try not to jump to any conclusions, here... he never said anything directly against the US, he just said that Cadillac's aren't really considered to be luxury cars in Europe? Gee, he might be right, and he might not be, but don't you think its a little bit harsh to react like that?

[Batmobile_Turbo]

Originally Posted by Egg Nog

You saying this is just about as paranoid as the United States' national security policy

Try not to jump to any conclusions, here... he never said anything directly against the US, he just said that Cadillac's aren't really considered to be luxury cars in Europe? Gee, he might be right, and he might not be, but don't you think its a little bit harsh to react like that?

it's still insulting to say "cadillacs aren't considered to be luxury cars in Europe" because they are luxury cars anywhere, that's all they make.

[Matra et Alpine]

Originally Posted by Batmobile_Turbo

even though i like jaguar more than BMW, i'll have to go with the BMW becaus i heard that the Jag S-type is kind of crappy.

You heard wrong.
It is everything an exec saloon needs to be and some more.
Not enough to drag me away from my Alpine, but the day will come when I'll have to wear a bunnet - just before I get a Volvo :-)

Except the kiss of death is that Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson reckons it's better than the BMW.
That'll destroy sales for Jaguar :-)