327 chev vs 340-6 pack chrysler vs 351 cleveland

[Ferrer]

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing nota.

[clutch-monkey]

Originally Posted by nota

#3: Much modded Holden 179 with solid lifters, race cam, Yella Terra head, extractors, twin Strommies, etc. 1,500 rpm idle.

looks great. do you know if it's still getting around?
more info on torana please..

Originally Posted by nota

Great for lunchtime drive-bys at the Catholic Girls High School ...

LOL

[jcp123]

Great-looking stuff thanks nota! I love it.

[unixrevolution]

Originally Posted by johnnynumfiv

I would pick the small block chevy. It's much cheaper to get power out of it compared to ford and chrysler.

I think with the abundance of aftermarket parts for Ford and Dodge from places like Summit, this is largely a myth.

For my money, I'd take the Cleveland. Plenty of power without too much weight, tank-like reliability. The chevy is, well, a bit boring, and not as well constructed, and the Dodge's 3-carb setup will be touchy.

[johnnynumfiv]

Originally Posted by unixrevolution

I think with the abundance of aftermarket parts for Ford and Dodge from places like Summit, this is largely a myth.

For my money, I'd take the Cleveland. Plenty of power without too much weight, tank-like reliability. The chevy is, well, a bit boring, and not as well constructed, and the Dodge's 3-carb setup will be touchy.

That came from my uncle who's an engine builder. He builds all three and still says the chevy is better and cheaper to get power out of. I think he has about $2,000 into his BBC drag engine, basically a truck engine, with good pistons, rod and crank, putting out about 575 at the crank. Can a ford or chrysler do the same?(yes I am biased towards chevys)

[Kitdy]

Originally Posted by johnnynumfiv

That came from my uncle who's an engine builder. He builds all three and still says the chevy is better and cheaper to get power out of. I think he has about $2,000 into his BBC drag engine, basically a truck engine, with good pistons, rod and crank, putting out about 575 at the crank. Can a ford or chrysler do the same?(yes I am biased towards chevys)

Judging by unix's avatar, he's biased towards Fords.

[clutch-monkey]

Originally Posted by Kitdy

Judging by unix's avatar, he's biased towards Fords.

haha good work sherlock

[Kitdy]

Originally Posted by clutch-monkey

haha good work sherlock

I just wanted to make sure some of our slower members (i.e., you) were sure about that.

[clutch-monkey]

well i wasn't sure.. i was going to ask pokey for some statistical analysis on it first. but you seem to have it covered.

[nota]

Originally Posted by unixrevolution

For my money, I'd take the Cleveland. Plenty of power without too much weight, tank-like reliability.

Speaking from the land which became the 'home of the Cleveland', I will venture this:

That engine was heavy, a real porker.
By design it was beset by chronic oiling problems (in racing applications).
Huge ports meant (comparitively) not much torque at lower revs, they needed revs to really fly
It sounded fantastic and in its day was fast as hell.

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Listen to Aussie 351C guru Dick Johnson's Falcon XE touring car as he guns for pole during qualifying for the '83 Bathurst 1000 km event.

A previous winner and set to do it again, in clearly the fastest car in the race. It was all looking so good for the Super Dick, until...

YouTube - Dick Johnsons 1983 Bathurst Top Ten Qualifying Lap

YouTube - Dick Johnsons 1983 Bathurst Top Ten Qualifying Lap

Btw engine-builder Johnson admitted to briefly using up to 8,000 rpm in the big Clevo, which was manufactured here until 1984. Those fat rear tyres were off a Porsche 935 - the widest race tyre available at that time - but initially they couldn't handle the weight of the big Falcon and used to literally pop the cords out of the sidewall. Not at Mt Panorama but on other circuits the car would develop a monumental vibration when loaded up through certain high-speed corners (enough to blur the drivers vision & knock the interior mirror off the windscreen!) and he'd pull into the pits with all these tyre cords hang out the side of the tyre!

[f6fhellcat13]

Excellent info as always, nota.
I must say, the front suspension seemed to be struggling pretty badly. But, what a sound.

[pimento]

Super Dick should have this on his race suit for that kinda driving:

[jcp123]

Yeah, the Cleveland in my Dad's Mach 1 was a real dog under 3k, but starting at about 3500 it would just pick up power and keep going, going, going...always loved the 2nd gear pull onto the freeway I was never a fan of revvers before I drove the Cleveland (which, at my experience level at the time, always scared the $@#%@ out of me)..