GM's V-series challenge

[cmcpokey]

Originally Posted by Rockefella

I'll bring a Bonneville and wipe the floor with those suckaz

it is a road course and not an autox... so the autoxbonne might be out of its element.

and thanks kitdy for correcting everyone about it not being at laguna. i was hoping it was, because i wanted to go watch.

[Kitdy]

Originally Posted by NSXType-R

How about a Lexus IS-F?

Originally Posted by roosterjuicer

isn't that only 400hp though?

An IS-F is no M3 or C63. The M3 is more nimble and the C63 significantly more powerful.

I think it'd be interesting if someone showed up in a Panamera Turbo, C63, or E92 M3. Even though they are all down on power, I think that they would be the best challengers to the CTS-V.

[Kitdy]

Originally Posted by Rockefella

I'll bring a Bonneville and wipe the floor with those suckaz

Werd.

Originally Posted by roosterjuicer

3800 4 life!!!

Who needs modern technology?

Originally Posted by cmcpokey

it is a road course and not an autox... so the autoxbonne might be out of its element.

and thanks kitdy for correcting everyone about it not being at laguna. i was hoping it was, because i wanted to go watch.

The Autoxbonne is never out of it's element. It – like the 1.8T – is unbeatable. Were you to drop a 1.8T in the Autoxbonne, it'd create something so awesome that it would cease to exist.

Shame though that it's not at Laguna, a much more epic and storied track than the one they are using.

[Cobrafan427]

Aston Martin Rapide? Might be interesting even tho the Aston's long wheel base could affect handling

[roosterjuicer]

Originally Posted by Cobrafan427

Aston Martin Rapide? Might be interesting even tho the Aston's long wheel base could affect handling

once again, not enough power (although if it were a looks competition i think it would dominate). i still think the m5 is its closest competition. isn't an m5 faster than an m3 or are they about even steven?

[NSXType-R]

Originally Posted by roosterjuicer

isn't that only 400hp though?

Just about.

Originally Posted by Kitdy

An IS-F is no M3 or C63. The M3 is more nimble and the C63 significantly more powerful.

I think it'd be interesting if someone showed up in a Panamera Turbo, C63, or E92 M3. Even though they are all down on power, I think that they would be the best challengers to the CTS-V.

I'm not sure if the M3 and the IS-F are that far apart. Car and Driver compared the two together, so certainly it shouldn't be all too bad.

And in any case, it seems to be more of a product relations thing more than anything else.

[Ferrer]

Originally Posted by NSXType-R

Just about.

425bhp actually.

But comparing sports saloons by their lap times is as pointless as wanting the Veyron because it can do 400km/h...

[roosterjuicer]

Originally Posted by Ferrer

425bhp actually.

But comparing sports saloons by their lap times is as pointless as wanting the Veyron because it can do 400km/h...

good point.

as you all probably know, i am a huge GM fanboy but I would much rather have an an aston martin, a c63 or even a jaguar xj although i dont know if i would want to pay for any of these cars) than the cts-v even though it is the fastest. it just doesn't seem like that "nice" of a car to me.

[Ferrer]

Originally Posted by roosterjuicer

good point.

as you all probably know, i am a huge GM fanboy but I would much rather have an an aston martin, a c63 or even a jaguar xj although i dont know if i would want to pay for any of these cars) than the cts-v even though it is the fastest. it just doesn't seem like that "nice" of a car to me.

But it doesn't really matter that it is the fastest.

The M3 is faster than the 335i, but in my opinion the 335i is a much nicer car than the M3. Like wise it doesn't matter that the CTS-V is the fastest, what matters is if it can win your heart.

[Auxin]

Panamera Turbo, Bugatti Galibier (being fantastical).

[Wes.Coleman]

I think maybe an EVO FQ-400 could give it a run for its money. I'd like to see the Caddy win, though.

[Runfromcheney]

Originally Posted by Ferrer

But it doesn't really matter that it is the fastest.

The M3 is faster than the 335i, but in my opinion the 335i is a much nicer car than the M3. Like wise it doesn't matter that the CTS-V is the fastest, what matters is if it can win your heart.

Agreed with that. If I were buying an entry level luxury sedan, I would buy a Mercedes-Benz C300 Luxury. It is not the fastest, or most stylish, but I like its layout, as well as the impeccable quality, durability and capabilities. The fact that it reminds me of the W123 (which is my favorite) car also gives bonus points. So yeah, it doesn't matter if a car is the fastest around a track, it depends on the overall package and how that fits the customer. If I were in the market for a sedan of the CTS' class, I would get the Mercedes just because the overall package fits me best.

[clutch-monkey]

isn't it unfair for the CTS-V to have lutz drive it?

[Kitdy]

Originally Posted by Ferrer

But comparing sports saloons by their lap times is as pointless as wanting the Veyron because it can do 400km/h...

Originally Posted by Ferrer

But it doesn't really matter that it is the fastest.

But can't you enjoy this as a stupid diversion? What a heated conflict this should be!

Originally Posted by clutch-monkey

isn't it unfair for the CTS-V to have lutz drive it?

Retired GM engineer/test driver/racer John Heinricy will also apparently be there just in case anyone is a real hot hand. He's the guy that lapped the ZR1 and CTS-V around the 'ring.

[Ferrer]

Originally Posted by Kitdy

But can't you enjoy this as a stupid diversion? What a heated conflict this should be!

When it's GM PR galore? No I can't.