your favourite classic

[jcp123]

Huh...never knew you could get a C in those...I kind of like them though! You could do a pretty neat camping conversion in the back of them, and with the Cleveland in there you'd still never be hurting for power!!

[strega13]

just a few of the classics i love :
mercedes 300SL gullwing

porsche 917

ferrari 330P4

this 250GTO is only second to me to the mercedes 300SL gullwing and the most beautiful ferrari ever built


toyota 200GT

datsun/nissan 240Z

[BLACK 300ZX]

It's a hard question!

250GTO, 250 GT SWB, 250 Lusso, 250 LM, 250TR, 330TRI LM, 330 P4, 365 GTB/4 Daytona, 512BB, 512S, DB4 GT Zagato, 911 RSR, 917 Kurzheck, Giulia Sprint GTA, Giula TZ2, Tipo 33 Stradale, BMW E9 3.0 CSL, M1, 2002 tii, Escort MK1 RS1600, Cortina Lotus, Talbot Sunbeam Lotus, Toyota 2000GT, Skyline KPGC10/KPGC110 and many others...

[J.J.Horst]

Making a short list would be difficult, but I will try. Cars in no particular order...

Daimler Majestic Major (4.5 L V8, 8 sec 0-100km/h for a 2.5 ton car)
Armstrong Siddeley Star Sapphire
Princess 2200 HLS (Totally unreliable mechanically, but Oh so beautiful!)
Lamborghini Espada
And of course, for those who know me, some Bugattis:
T101 Exner 1965
T35
T57sc Atlantic
T41 Royale Kellner
T50 post-war rebody by Saoutchik
T57G: Preceding all post-war sportscar design in 1936! And also win LeMans.


www.BugattiPage.com

[henk4]

Originally Posted by J.J.Horst

Making a short list would be difficult, but I will try. Cars in no particular order...

Daimler Majestic Major (4.5 L V8, 8 sec 0-100km/h for a 2.5 ton car)
Armstrong Siddeley Star Sapphire
Princess 2200 HLS (Totally unreliable mechanically, but Oh so beautiful!)
Lamborghini Espada
And of course, for those who know me, some Bugattis:
T101 Exner 1965
T35
T57sc Atlantic
T41 Royale Kellner
T50 post-war rebody by Saoutchik
T57G: Preceding all post-war sportscar design in 1936! And also win LeMans.


www.BugattiPage.com

some very interesting choices there, especially among the non-Bugattis. The AS seems to be ignored by virtual all classic car magazines that I have been buying for the last 10-15 years. The Princess non-surprisingly also. The Daimler is indeed something of a sleeper, sadly it had to die after the Jaguar takeover.

[J.J.Horst]

Did you know that Armstrong Siddeley stopped making cars only because they needed all funds to invest in the development of the VTOL Hawker-Siddeley Harrier?

I owned a Princess myself, very nice car, but with a fragile engine (straight-six transversely mounted at front). It had a tendency to overheat, so in summer at slow speed one had to put the heater to a maximum to cool down the engine!

Daimler made very interesting high quality cars, I owned a 1954 Conquest Century Saloon, very nice relatively small car with a 2.5 litre straight six. Equipped with a lot of nice things, best of which was the Daimler Fluid Flywheel Transmission. This self-controlled automatic would enable gearchanges at full throttle, effectively slowing down the engine revs by boosting the car-speed.

All of these cars are seen only sporadically, and are in fact relatively cheap to acquire. For the Daimler and Armstrong Siddeley the prices are very low, compared with contemporary RR's which were of comparable quality. Real High class people didn't buy RR, they bought Daimler! (as for example the Queen of England).

[McReis]

Originally Posted by henk4

The AS seems to be ignored by virtual all classic car magazines that I have been buying for the last 10-15 years. The Princess non-surprisingly also.

In fact it surprises me to see how some rare upper-class models can be overlooked by magazines, while we get so many repeated info about the same old cars. It's boring. I suppose all classic car lovers like "odd-balls".

Originally Posted by J.J.Horst

This self-controlled automatic would enable gearchanges at full throttle, effectively slowing down the engine revs by boosting the car-speed.

There's one thing I never read about. Interesting and very advanced.

Originally Posted by J.J.Horst

All of these cars are seen only sporadically, and are in fact relatively cheap to acquire. For the Daimler and Armstrong Siddeley the prices are very low, compared with contemporary RR's which were of comparable quality. Real High class people didn't buy RR, they bought Daimler! (as for example the Queen of England).

That's because even when buying unusual cars, people still prefer to go with the current instead of really being original.

[henk4]

On top of that I cannot even remember having seen an AS Sapphire on any of the events that I have been visiting during the past 10 years or so, not even in the parking lots and at Silverstone club meetings.

[go.pawel]

Originally Posted by henk4

On top of that I cannot even remember having seen an AS Sapphire on any of the events that I have been visiting during the past 10 years or so, not even in the parking lots and at Silverstone club meetings.

Try some lower-scale events
An Armstrong Siddeley Sapphire at Oldtimerdag Alphen aan den Rijn (hope I remember the name correctly) in 2003. Also an interesting Riley Pathfinder.

[J.J.Horst]

There was an Armstrong Siddeley Hurricane at Paleis het Loo 2 or so years ago. I Believe it was accompanied by a Sapphire or a Star Sapphire. Also there was an exhibition in the Hague, I believe 5 years ago approx.

[henk4]

Originally Posted by J.J.Horst

There was an Armstrong Siddeley Hurricane at Paleis het Loo 2 or so years ago. I Believe it was accompanied by a Sapphire or a Star Sapphire. Also there was an exhibition in the Hague, I believe 5 years ago approx.

My AS folders are empty, except for this HP25Tickford, shown at the Concours in Schwetzingen in 2003. There was also a Hurricane based ute for sale at the Bonhams auction at Quail this year...

[D'ARTOIS]

I was about 21 when I bought an Armstrong Siddeley for a mere 500 guilders -
but very shortly after I sold it since it was very difficult for me to maintain the car. The mechanics were desastriously difficult (electric-hydraulic gearbox similar to Delahaye, which I have had as well). Frankly, even now I would hesitate to buy such a complicated car but again, yes it might be a forgotten beauty!

[francar]

favourite classics ... it´s not easy ...

ok ... this Maserati and Ferrari