Best european supercar?

[wt888]

Originally Posted by Ferrer

Damn, are they ugly...

I'd rather be driving a Ghibli.

Which Ghibli ?

[sansev]

Of course, MB SLR McLaren 722. Incredible car!

[clutch-monkey]

even though it's an automatic?

[wt888]

Originally Posted by sansev

Of course, MB SLR McLaren 722. Incredible car!

but with horrible brakes. They have no feel.

[roosterjuicer]

I consider the f40 to be the greatest European supercar.

[wt888]

Originally Posted by roosterjuicer

I consider the f40 to be the greatest European supercar.

Here is a good Ferrari F40 road trip article:

http://www.ferrarilife.com/library/d...type=flq&id=88

You might need to login to access it. Not sure.

[Ferrer]

Originally Posted by wt888

Which Ghibli ?

Original one obviously.

Not the Detomaso abomination...

[RobPorsche]

Porsche 959 and/or GT1 Street

[Zytek_Fan]

Ascari A10

[wt888]

Originally Posted by RobPorsche

Porsche 959 and/or GT1 Street

The 959 is amazingly expensive to maintain. Much of the work can only be done at the factory in Stuttgard. Very good article in Octane earlier this year comparing the F40 with the 959.

[LeonOfTheDead]

Originally Posted by wt888

Sorry but that is not correct. Adjustable suspension was an option on the F40 and standard on the F50. Switch to raise or lower the suspension is on the dashboard to the left hand side of the steering wheel.

i googled this argument, and find few but i guess good results: you were right.

Originally Posted by wt888

but with horrible brakes. They have no feel.

i guessed they fix the problem in the 722 since it was known immediately after the deliver of the first SLRs to the press. but i still have to read a real test drive of the 722 edition.

Originally Posted by wt888

The 959 is amazingly expensive to maintain. Much of the work can only be done at the factory in Stuttgard. Very good article in Octane earlier this year comparing the F40 with the 959.

since you can purchase such a car, the costs shouldn't be a problem, if you did some right calculations. considering its short production run and the complexity of the project, i am not surprised about the fact you need to send the car in Stuttgard, like the CLK GTR, even if for customers living out of Germany and neighboring countries they send their technicians to fix "ordinary" problem.
i think that i would like to recover each of my supercars in its own main factory, since i guess i could afford it and it would be more "satisfacting" and maybe even better done.

[wt888]

Originally Posted by LeonOfTheDead

i googled this argument, and find few but i guess good results: you were right.



i guessed they fix the problem in the 722 since it was known immediately after the deliver of the first SLRs to the press. but i still have to read a real test drive of the 722 edition.



since you can purchase such a car, the costs shouldn't be a problem, if you did some right calculations. considering its short production run and the complexity of the project, i am not surprised about the fact you need to send the car in Stuttgard, like the CLK GTR, even if for customers living out of Germany and neighboring countries they send their technicians to fix "ordinary" problem.
i think that i would like to recover each of my supercars in its own main factory, since i guess i could afford it and it would be more "satisfacting" and maybe even better done.

On the SLR, I don't believe teh problem was fylly resolved

Regarding the Porsche 959, it needs to be used regularily or all sorts of things start to go wrong. Major issue is with the suspension and AWD system.

[LeonOfTheDead]

Originally Posted by wt888

On the SLR, I don't believe teh problem was fylly resolved

Regarding the Porsche 959, it needs to be used regularily or all sorts of things start to go wrong. Major issue is with the suspension and AWD system.

do you know which kind of problem affect the suspensions? i can imagine the problem related to the AWD system, since without a regular use it could have some problem of lubrication and of deformation/tear of the elastic gaskets. since it was basically a road legal prototype, no surprises.

[wt888]

Originally Posted by LeonOfTheDead

do you know which kind of problem affect the suspensions? i can imagine the problem related to the AWD system, since without a regular use it could have some problem of lubrication and of deformation/tear of the elastic gaskets. since it was basically a road legal prototype, no surprises.

Basically all of the above. When they sit, gaskets harden, lubrication jells, and all osrts of thinks go wrong with leaks and tears. A higher mileage regularily used 959 is a much happier car than a low mileage garage queen.

[LeonOfTheDead]

Originally Posted by wt888

Basically all of the above. When they sit, gaskets harden, lubrication jells, and all osrts of thinks go wrong with leaks and tears. A higher mileage regularily used 959 is a much happier car than a low mileage garage queen.

i understand, more, i know, but, a suspension is a different component, it doesn't have so much elastic or even perishable parts. unless it used a multi-link system, which is not.