Pagani Zonda -vs- Ferrari F50 (Poll Added Feb.17.2004)

[digital monk]

its a definate that i'm pickin pagani zonda but cuz i'm new i'm not sure about the data base of this car how much does it cost?

[Matra et Alpine]

Originally Posted by kko

Pagani worked for ferrari and then whent out on his own, so it should be a lil better

Why ?

Lots of folks have worked for and left Microsoft, I don't see anyone beating Bill Gates yet.
And THAT's an easy one to better

[kko]

that people are sayin that ferrari is better cause "its ferrari" when pagani help design the Jalpa, the design of the Countach Evoluzione , the 4 valve Countach ,Diablo, the Lamborghini P140, the L30 and the Diablo , and the zonda has been a prototype since 1988, and a test model was made in 1992, so its been in development for a while.

so basicly pagani knows his stuff

edit: im not sure if he worked for ferrari buti know he's designed for lambo and the like, also he's made some f1 cars...

[Dino Scuderia]

Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine

Why ?

Lots of folks have worked for and left Microsoft, I don't see anyone beating Bill Gates yet.
And THAT's an easy one to better

Enzo Ferrari left Alfa Romeo to go out on his own, sometimes it works.

[werty]

Originally Posted by carlover

Woaahh! 15 posts and 3 lost rep.! You on a roll! And you said "even its much nicer", what the hell is that supposed to mean!?! You might as well just come out and say

Anyways, I like the Pagani better. I think it looks cooler and it is faster. Actually the main reason is that quad exaust.

it isn't faster according to CAR&DRIVER magazine and other sources
Zonda top speed is 189mph, F50 is 202
Zonda 0-60 is 3.6, F50 is 3.4

And...both of the cars have a quad exhaust

[werty]

Originally Posted by kko

that people are sayin that ferrari is better cause "its ferrari" when pagani help design the Jalpa, the design of the Countach Evoluzione , the 4 valve Countach ,Diablo, the Lamborghini P140, the L30 and the Diablo , and the zonda has been a prototype since 1988, and a test model was made in 1992, so its been in development for a while.

so basicly pagani knows his stuff

edit: im not sure if he worked for ferrari buti know he's designed for lambo and the like, also he's made some f1 cars...

pagani may know his stuff very well, but i'm betting that the older and more established Ferrari knows more

[jameswithington]

Tough call this one, mainly cause I reckon they have a subtly different ethos. Obviously they are both mid-engined V12 Italian supercars, but the Zonda is not as totally hardcore as the F50, it has much more of a GT element to it. This is probably why I would go for the Zonda overall, it's more of a rounded car. I'm not saying that the F50 is a worse car because it's less refined, it was never supposed to be a luxury experience. The F50 is brilliant at what it does, but if I was gonna splash out £300000 on a car I would like at least a few a creature comforts!

I think they are both fabulous cars because of the purity of the engineering and design principles. The F50 was intended to be as pure a representation of a road-going racing car as possible, and it achieved it superbly. I love the Zonda because it is just one man's vision of what a perfect supercar should be and he executed it as perfectly as he possibly could, and this kind of determined individualism is something that is seen all too rarely these days.

[bum-man]

Originally Posted by werty

it isn't faster according to CAR&DRIVER magazine and other sources
Zonda top speed is 189mph, F50 is 202
Zonda 0-60 is 3.6, F50 is 3.4

And...both of the cars have a quad exhaust

nope the Zonda C12-S 7.3s top speed is 220 it can almost hit 200 in 5th gear i just saw the Top Gear review for it against the Mercialago (spelling?) and it completely decimated it.

[Matra et Alpine]

Originally Posted by bum-man

nope the Zonda C12-S 7.3s top speed is 220 it can almost hit 200 in 5th gear i just saw the Top Gear review for it against the Mercialago (spelling?) and it completely decimated it.

erm, IIRC in the last show they brought the Lambo back and it wiped the board and the track record

[whiteballz]

PAGINI!
man id love one! age is a factor. ferrari is good, the pagini is actually faster then the new enzo! (in top speed at least) if not then CAR magazine's facts are off (UK mag). the pagini zonda c12s (faster version) won performance car of the year in 02.

[werty]

Originally Posted by bum-man

nope the Zonda C12-S 7.3s top speed is 220 it can almost hit 200 in 5th gear i just saw the Top Gear review for it against the Mercialago (spelling?) and it completely decimated it.

thats cool and all but i'm talking about a stock Zonda vs. a stock Ferrari F50
so if you want to start another poll it should be the Zonda C12 7.3 vs. a Ferrari F50 GT

or maybe another version of the F50 like the one the creator of Duke Nukem has; with the twin turbo that goes 250mph

[bum-man]

Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine

erm, IIRC in the last show they brought the Lambo back and it wiped the board and the track record

head to head with the zonda?

[bum-man]

Originally Posted by werty

thats cool and all but i'm talking about a stock Zonda vs. a stock Ferrari F50
so if you want to start another poll it should be the Zonda C12 7.3 vs. a Ferrari F50 GT

or maybe another version of the F50 like the one the creator of Duke Nukem has; with the twin turbo that goes 250mph

it was a stock zonda a 2002 C12 7.3...it came from the factory not a tuner.

[irarref]

I would choose the Pagani Zonda over the F50 for looks, but when it comes to the performance the F50 wins hands down. F1 technology.

If I want an AMG powered car I'll buy a CL65.

[werty]

Originally Posted by bum-man

it was a stock zonda a 2002 C12 7.3...it came from the factory not a tuner.

I know that, what i'm saying is a Pagani Zonda vs a Ferrari F50
not Pagani Zonda C12 7.3 vs Ferrari F50 (that wouldn't be a competition)
There is a difference

1.)a another competition would be a Zonda C12 7.3 vs a Ferrari F50 GT

2.)or Zonda C12 7.3 vs a twin-turbo F50

maybe i should have posted a regular zonda picture instead of the blue one which is the C12 7.3 package