Castagna Mini Wagon

[SL500]

haha,Nice Idea!

Castanga Mini Wagon

[Matra et Alpine]

Originally Posted by SL500

haha,Nice Idea!

Castanga Mini Wagon

It was a crazy idea when BLMC did the 'countryman' series of 100,1300 and Mini.

It's just stupid to do it now.

Why do people pay designers who can't come up with decent ideas huge salaries to just copy an old idea - and a bad idea at that. Not surprisingly the wood rots !!! ( Unless if't plastic wood replica - that would actually be even WORSE )

[Madman]

Let's hope they don't decide to recreate the Mini Clubman. YUCK!!!

BTW, shouldn't an Italian made Mini be badged Innocenti? Those of you old enough to remember British Leyland's Italian outpost will understand what I mean.

Madman of the People

[crisis]

Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine

It was a crazy idea when BLMC did the 'countryman' series of 100,1300 and Mini.
It's just stupid to do it now.
Why do people pay designers who can't come up with decent ideas huge salaries to just copy an old idea - and a bad idea at that. Not surprisingly the wood rots !!! ( Unless if't plastic wood replica - that would actually be even WORSE )

Au contraire, I believe this is exactly what this little horror deserves. After all retro is as retro does.

[Matra et Alpine]

Originally Posted by crisis

Au contraire, I believe this is exactly what this little horror deserves. After all retro is as retro does.

Arrggghhh.

I can see the Riley Elf and Vanden Plas models now

hmm, there might be fun photo-shopping those !!!

[Madman]

Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine

Arrggghhh.

I can see the Riley Elf and Vanden Plas models now

hmm, there might be fun photo-shopping those !!!

Don't forget the Wolesley Hornet. Since the new Mini is already seen as an upscale product, I wonder is there is room for an ever more upscale model, such as a reborn Riley Elf or Wolesley Hornet. BTW, BMW still owns the rights to the Riley (and Triumph) names. Hmmmm, could make for an interesting revival of classic British marques.

Madman of the People

[crisis]

Originally Posted by Madman

Don't forget the Wolesley Hornet. Since the new Mini is already seen as an upscale product, I wonder is there is room for an ever more upscale model, such as a reborn Riley Elf or Wolesley Hornet. BTW, BMW still owns the rights to the Riley (and Triumph) names. Hmmmm, could make for an interesting revival of classic British marques.

Madman of the People

How about a retro rip off of that masterpiece of rattly British motoring , the Triumph Herald.

[Matra et Alpine]

Originally Posted by Madman

Don't forget the Wolesley Hornet.

Weren't the Elf and Hornet the same car with different badge.
Morris Mini and Austin Mini ??

BTW, BMW still owns the rights to the Riley (and Triumph) names. Hmmmm, could make for an interesting revival of classic British marques.

Please tell me no
I think it would be a disaster.
I think the new Lambo under Audi guidance is a poor copy of a great marque.
Mind you the latter TR7 and 8 were nothing to cry over the loss of

[Matra et Alpine]

Originally Posted by crisis

How about a retro rip off of that masterpiece of rattly British motoring , the Triumph Herald.

Please don't mention that car.
it is to our embarrasment that in the last rally we competed we lost the class win to a bog-standard Herald driven by a guy in his 50s and his son navigating.
We still haven't consumed enough beer to drown those sorrows.
I screwed up a regularity section and ened with 20 minutes penalty.
I hate regularity, it's torture in a moving vehicle

[crisis]

Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine

Please don't mention that car.
it is to our embarrasment that in the last rally we competed we lost the class win to a bog-standard Herald driven by a guy in his 50s and his son navigating.
We still haven't consumed enough beer to drown those sorrows.
I screwed up a regularity section and ened with 20 minutes penalty.
I hate regularity, it's torture in a moving vehicle

I wish you had kept that piece of information to yourself. Heres me, touting your knowledge to all and sundry and you blow it by getting done by a Herald. I dont know what the technicality is that did you in but the fact that a Herald held together without is thumbcatches undoing makes me wonder how difficult the racing is you get up to.

[Matra et Alpine]

Originally Posted by crisis

I wish you had kept that piece of information to yourself. Heres me, touting your knowledge to all and sundry and you blow it by getting done by a Herald. I dont know what the technicality is that did you in but the fact that a Herald held together without is thumbcatches undoing makes me wonder how difficult the racing is you get up to.

There's worse, the driver wore cords and a tweed jacket !!!
We're kitted out in the nomex overalls, helmets etc etc.
I've told Iain ( my driver ) that we don't enter rallies with regularities

A regularity section is a road section ( anything from 5-50+miles ) through which 'average' speed must be mainteined. These are often broken down into sections at 20mph, 50mph, 30mph, 20mph. The nav has to plot the route,
track the distance covered, the time taken and that gives average mph for the section so far, then have to instruct driver what speed to go at to make the next checkpoint TO THE SECOND ! If the driver slows down for a corner then you have to recalculate and tell him what you want him to do for the rest of the section. It's a bloody nightmare and I don't see it's relevance to rallying. But some people ONLY do regularities and enjoy the challenge. Of course the good guys can do the distance/time calculation for distance to go in their heads they do it so often ( a bit like darts players who can subtract anything from 501 with ease ). Experienced regularity drivers can do the average speed themselves so know that if they slow down to 20mph for 30 seconds then they need to drive at 35mph for 15 seconds and then return to 30 to maintain an average of 30mph.

For mere mortals you use tables to look it all up. I mis-read the table

[porlamfer]

That's strange! Because there are not any information of this car in the report of 2004 Geneva,Ultimatecarpage.com.

[Madman]

Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine

Weren't the Elf and Hornet the same car with different badge.
Morris Mini and Austin Mini ?

The Riley Elf and Wolesley Hornet were very similar. They both had a boot/trunk tacked onto the back to give the little Mini body the look of a saloon/sedan.
I'm sure that some of the Photoshoppers on this board could have a bit of fun trying to recreate an Elf/Hornet in the modern idiom, using the new Mini as a base.
The classic Mini shape cars were originally known as the Austin Seven and Morris Mini Minor.

BTW, I wonder how long it will be before we see a reborn Mini Moke?

Madman of the People