bye bye GTO

[charged]

Originally Posted by Slicks

Your clueless.
The people who want solid rear ends are the drag racers. That setup is far superior than IRS.

Your arrogant attitude is really pissin me off, Nota would have forgotten more than you would ever know. He probably owned more cars than you've had dates. Lighten up a bit with the NOOB,CLUELEES remarks.

Slicks what is your age, me thinks still in your teens, with jackshit life experience, exactly how many motors have you built what times have they pulled, how long have they lasted etc. Tell me as you think you know it all

My resume is about 200 rebuilt engines from 80cc single cylinders to 2300 cubic inches V12's. You have called me a NOOB numerous times in regards to hp/l. Not saying you need to have done that to post here, but they way you put down anyone with the clueless or noob remark who doesnt agree with you, u make it sound like yourve been building high performance cars for 30 years.

So state your engine build resume, Im very intruiged ?
Im guessing a big zero

[Slicks]

Originally Posted by charged

Your arrogant attitude is really pissin me off, Nota would have forgotten more than you would ever know. He probably owned more cars than you've had dates. Lighten up a bit with the NOOB,CLUELEES remarks.

Everyone else's arrogant attitude is pissing me off, solid rear ends for bragging rights? Who is he kidding? Yeah, go over to LS1tech to the drag forums and say that, they might make it a sticky it would be so funny.

Slicks what is your age, me thinks still in your teens, with jackshit life experience, exactly how many motors have you built what times have they pulled, how long have they lasted etc. Tell me as you think you know it all

My resume is about 200 rebuilt engines from 80cc single cylinders to 2300 cubic inches V12's. You have called me a NOOB numerous times in regards to hp/l. Not saying you need to have done that to post here, but they way you put down anyone with the clueless or noob remark who doesnt agree with you, u make it sound like yourve been building high performance cars for 30 years.

Im 20, and have no engine building experience. But isnt it funny, that you, being one, can't tell me how hp/l is relevant in the real world? While your at LS1tech asking about solid rear ends mention hp/l, that will put the icing on the cake.

[2ndclasscitizen]

Originally Posted by Slicks

Im 20, and have no engine building experience. But isnt it funny, that you, being one, can't tell me how hp/l is relevant in the real world? While your at LS1tech asking about solid rear ends mention hp/l, that will put the icing on the cake.

Wow, the LS1 forums, what a come back. Why don't we point you to do the B-series forums then? Or a CBR/ZXR/GSXR forum?

[Slicks]

Originally Posted by 2ndclasscitizen

Wow, the LS1 forums, what a come back. Why don't we point you to do the B-series forums then? Or a CBR/ZXR/GSXR forum?

Heh, probably 80% of the LS1tech forum own sportbikes...

[charged]

Slicks wrote

Im 20, and have no engine building experience. But isnt it funny, that you, being one, can't tell me how hp/l is relevant in the real world? While your at LS1tech asking about solid rear ends mention hp/l, that will put the icing on the cake.

So instead of making motors more efficent we just increase the capacity, thats a little simplistic. If I want to get another 50hp from engine I either stroke it, bore it or fling it thats how its done slicks.If that was the case we would all be driving 6litre aluminium V8's.I would prefer the route of changing timing-fuel maps, cam profiles etc. But what would I know as your've told me various times a Im a noob

Last time I looked I actually live in the real world and talk to real world engine builders, tuners etc. Im not the one always quoting things from cyber space eg LS1tech.com etc.

Speaking of solid rear ends, we are actually over summer fabricating a A ARm rear end for one of the race cars and lowering the roll centre by changing the angles of the upper and lower control arms so the crossover point is midway along the car to lower the GOG of the diff. We will also in the off season fabricate a new plenum for one of the car with longer runners ,to aid in better torque and a more linear power delivery to aid in power down out of corners. We will be doing this with our hands and not a computer keyboard.

Solid axles for drag racing are a must, personally been there done that with drag racing. Moved on since then to things that actually need a little more knowledge than 60ft times, trap times etc.

[Slicks]

Originally Posted by charged

So instead of making motors more efficent we just increase the capacity, thats a little simplistic. If I want to get another 50hp from engine I either stroke it, bore it or fling it thats how its done slicks.If that was the case we would all be driving 6litre aluminium V8's.I would prefer the route of changing timing-fuel maps, cam profiles etc. But what would I know as your've told me various times a Im a noob

Maybe I should be more specific, comparing two engine with hp/l is irrelevant. Saying engine A is better than engine B because it has more hp/l is plain out stupid. This is, and always has been my argument.

Last time I looked I actually live in the real world and talk to real world engine builders, tuners etc. Im not the one always quoting things from cyber space eg LS1tech.com etc.

Yes, the real world where displacement is not limited, and things like weight and size matter.

[henk4]

Originally Posted by Slicks

Yes, the real world where displacement is not limited, and things like weight and size matter.

are you not contradicting yourself here?

[Slicks]

Originally Posted by henk4

are you not contradicting yourself here?

displacement =/= weight or size.

[henk4]

Originally Posted by Slicks

displacement =/= weight or size.

In a real world size and weight limit displacement....

[SlickHolden]

[QUOTE]

Originally Posted by Slicks

Whats wrong with the mustang?

Whats right with it, Sometimes i look at it and think nice car nice engine, But it's mutten dressed in lamb it's about time they come too the modern world on suspension retro is going too there heads in more ways then one.

What year did it come back?

99 concept, Production i believe was 2001.

I cant say I really like the rear end of this car.

You havent seen it the way we have.

I really cant understand what your saying... Have you been boozing it up tonight?

None drinker. it's easy, Pontiac made it ugly, Then wondered why it didn't sell, They had a house full of designs but went for there ugly one. The coupe4 HSV body-kit would have looked good it had flared guards. And i seen a Pontiac GTO front on one of our Utes it stinks.

Its not due to the solid axle, solid axle cars can handle very well (caterham anyone?). Its the fact that most of these cars come from the factory to drag race, and made knowing that it will be modded. You'd honestly be hard pressed to find a stock V8 fbody, or Mustang Cobra or even GT. Many mustang guys complained when the Cobra first came out with IRS

I don't understand that, If they are built for drag race then why not have a 6lt 700hp motor not some dittzy little 6 or 4.6lt.
My car is live rear and i know it's limitations even with suspension work, Right now i would rather have IRS.
There are 10sec 1/4 Monaros getting around here, Some Commodores are into the 9's with IRS.

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

Just had a thought...

LS1 forums = engine equivalent of the Ronald Reagan forums?

[Slicks]

Originally Posted by henk4

In a real world size and weight limit displacement....

Hardly, displacement doesnt represent weight or size of the engine. The 7.0L LS7 is smaller and lighter than Ford's 4.6L V8 for example.

[Mr.Tiv]

Originally Posted by IWantAnAudiRS6

Just had a thought...

LS1 forums = engine equivalent of the Ronald Reagan forums?

If you mean that LS1s should be linked to the devil, then yes.

[Slicks]

Originally Posted by IWantAnAudiRS6

Just had a thought...

LS1 forums = engine equivalent of the Ronald Reagan forums?

[Slicks]

Originally Posted by SlickHolden

Whats right with it, Sometimes i look at it and think nice car nice engine, But it's mutten dressed in lamb it's about time they come too the modern world on suspension retro is going too there heads in more ways then one.

Whats right with it? Hmm, for $25,000 you get a 300hp, 13 second car with one of the biggest aftermarkets ever. And the sound mmmm, with free flowing mufflers the 4.6 or 5.4 could put exotics to shame.
http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....DCDED237E9&p=0

Now dont bother with "but omg its more expencive here", yeah, its not meant to have a market in australia.
The only thing not "modern" about the suspension is the solid rear end. In case you dont know, it has coils, like every mustang since the late 70s. And a solid rear end is cheaper, and usually lighter than IRS.

You havent seen it the way we have.

Elaborate.

None drinker. it's easy, Pontiac made it ugly, Then wondered why it didn't sell, They had a house full of designs but went for there ugly one. The coupe4 HSV body-kit would have looked good it had flared guards. And i seen a Pontiac GTO front on one of our Utes it stinks.

All they did was put the grille on, its not that bad...They needed it to be recognizable as a pontiac.

I don't understand that, If they are built for drag race then why not have a 6lt 700hp motor not some dittzy little 6 or 4.6lt.

Lets use some common sense here. Price, insurance, reliability, emissions, the list goes on. But, if you do want 600+hp, an 04 Cobra with exahust, pully and tune will make that easily and for close to nothing.

My car is live rear and i know it's limitations even with suspension work, Right now i would rather have IRS.

What do you drive?
I too have a solid axle in my car, and would also rather have IRS (only if it were lighter, and could hold some power though) but im more of a corner craver, I rather auto-x or road race than drag race.

There are 10sec 1/4 Monaros getting around here, Some Commodores are into the 9's with IRS.

So do we, here they are using drag bags to help with the wheel hop.