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Wheels in motion for car industry demise
http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...rticleID=12458
Is the Australian car industry truly prepared for the potential shocks lurking just around the corner, asks IAN PORTER. Quote:
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**sighs**
oh well, thats life
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Well its bad its not only haveing money leave the country but it is also costing local jobs.
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You just wonder if things will ever be great again?
I think everyone knows they need to make changes for the future but holden got in faster then a petrol tax . It seemed that they might have jumped the gun to fast, But maybe it was the plan ?But overall i think Australia will suffer it's not right, Australia has invested heaps in the local car makers it will be a shame if all that which they have invested went down the dunny, Then people will go overseas to build and design cars. I wonder what the plan is to get things back on track will the government give the others a hand out with a Claus in there also? I couldn't believe that was in the money offered to Ford thats like you wont a million? Get down and kiss my dirty AAAAAAA First.
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Well personally i think the goverment is doing an ok (not neciserily right or wrong but ok) thing they are ensuring at least one more falcon model and they are ensuring local jobs and local parts....why cant they make this offer to holden mits? or give them more incentives to source locally and while their at it relax fuel excise......
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I don't think needs it but maybe GM won't allow it? Mitsub should get it then the 380 can sell with some confidence behind it.
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And I dont think any ammount of confidence will save the 380 but the recent goverment support they are getting (fleet cars) will hopefully help them keep their head above water.
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Well Ford got the grant with the premise they'd give local suppliers a chance in their future developments. With the hackjob Holdens taken to local content it'd be pointless offering the same thing to them.
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I havent really done any of the maths (and I dont know the profit numbers), but does spending near 1 billion on a falcon/ commodore actually pay off over it's life cycle. And furthermore, considering our market is so small wouldnt you think that ford/ GM utilise the rear drive platforms more than they are??
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Well i'll clear up some numbers here for the AU's "total" life span.
AU - 700 million series 2/3 - unknown, assume 200 million together BA - 500 million mk2 - 100 million BF - 200 million BF2 - 100 million Thats 1.8 Billion Ford may stick into their latest chassis. Now what will they get back from it... sales 1998 - around the 60-70K mark 1999 2000 2001 - 50K mark 2002 2003 - 60K mark 2004 2005 - around the 50K mark So you can see the AU caused a dive in sales, the BA managed to pick that up but then the oil prices kicked in. So maybe hazard a guess of around average sales around 55K-65K per year. Prices are another thing to consider. AU's started around the 30K mark, but BA's were around the 35K mark. So say the average price for an AU could be around $35K, and the average BA was around $40K. Worst case scenario, Ford sells 55K per year at an average $35K. That puts them at getting back 1,925,000,000 per year. Best case scenario is about 65K at $40K, which brings back 2,600,000,000. Difference in revenue of around 700 million, enough to fund the AU. This is of course not considering profits vs cost per unit price.
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If that the attitude their takeing their gonna sink real fast.
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Thats why i want the hamburgler back
Mooney is a hand and knees bloke with GM he needs to remember he runs holden not GM and he thinks arse kissing GM will get him places, I think he';s next job will be trolley boy![]()
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I work for a first tier automotive supplier and I can tell you that the from where I sit, the automotive industry is in trouble. We build components for Holden, Toyota, Mitsubishi and a little bit of Ford. Over the last 3 - 6 months, we have lost a lot of business, especially from Holden and Toyota.
Holden sourced most of the products we made overseas at a cheaper rate, and cancelled contracts here. Things that we had devolved from scratch, and told would be put into cars, got scrapped and sourced globally. Toyota is a bit different, they wanted to expand their supplier base and so gave some of our business to another Japanese based company. In my opinion, automotive suppliers are in alot more trouble than the EOM's. I mean, all manufactures are going global, which opens the doors for cheaper cars and development, but it means that suppliers in Aus have to bite the bullet and start sourcing their own components from the global market. |
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They had o n the news that Tenneco(Monroe) will be shedding a further 70 positions, as Toyota will be sourcing the parts they use to supply locally through Asia instead. Very sad for the people down south of Adelaide whose jobs are dependent on the car industry.
Looks like Toyota are certainly sourcing their parts globally.
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