CO2 Emissions form New European Cars

[Kitdy]

I found this really interesting data sheet off of a link from autoblog. It basically shows you all the major European auto manufactures and the average CO2 per car that they emit based on sales data form the EU25 minus Latvia, Malta, and Poland.

I figure henk4 will get a kick out of this sexy raw data. Rawr.

So here's the list, from best to worst:

Position / Manufacturer / Fleet average CO2 emissions in 2006 (g/km)
1 PSA Peugeot Citroen 142
2 Fiat 144
3 Renault 147
4 Toyota 153
5 Honda 154
6 General Motors 157
7 Ford 162
8 Suzuki 166
9 Volkswagen 166
10 Hyundai 167
11 Nissan 168
12 Mazda 173
13 BMW 184
14 DaimlerChrysler 188

[fisetdavid26]

I'm surprised to see GM in sixth place... it's a proof they are getting better I suppose. I'm also surprised to see Toyota and Honda in 4th and 5th place, I expected Toyota to be first on the list. Well I'm glad to see European manufacturers clinching the top 3.

Originally Posted by Kitdy

I figure henk4 will get a kick out of this sexy raw data. Rawr.

Sometimes you scare me. Actually, I take that back. You scare the living hell out of me each time I talk with you.

[jediali]

Originally Posted by Kitdy

I figure henk4 will get a kick out of this sexy raw data. Rawr.

no doubt! we could bowl him over with NOx output too..double dosage..

[Kitdy]

Originally Posted by fisetdavid26

Sometimes you scare me. Actually, I take that back. You scare the living hell out of me each time I talk with you.

You must be a very scared man then as we speak so often.

Originally Posted by jediali

no doubt! we could bowl him over with NOx output too..double dosage..

You lost me.

[jediali]

Originally Posted by Kitdy

You lost me.

....Well...Henk4 talks about how his car was th first to have one of those thingys in the exhaust. Ok so a particulate filter is different and a catalytic convertor does the NOx (nitrogen oxides). I fail...sorry

[henk4]

Originally Posted by jediali

....Well...Henk4 talks about how his car was th first to have one of those thingys in the exhaust. Ok so a particulate filter is different and a catalytic convertor does the NOx (nitrogen oxides). I fail...sorry

nice discussion, chaps, the 2.2 PSA HDI/FAP engine was first introduced in the Peugeot 607 and then in the C5. No, particulate filers do nothing against NOx, and for GM you should also think about Opel and Daewoo models.

I am just wondering whether this list is the average of the CO2 production of individual models, or the average of the models produced over a specific period of time. That may give some different results, especially for the more expensive cars which are hardly bought with the entry level engines...

[Kitdy]

Originally Posted by henk4

I am just wondering whether this list is the average of the CO2 production of individual models, or the average of the models produced over a specific period of time. That may give some different results, especially for the more expensive cars which are hardly bought with the entry level engines...

Here is the original .pdf henk4. I read some of it and it seems they call the average the fleet average, whatever that means - I would assume that fleet is all the vehicles on the road and thus the fleet average would be the sum of all average of all those numbers.

[Kitdy]

Originally Posted by jediali

....Well...Henk4 talks about how his car was th first to have one of those thingys in the exhaust. Ok so a particulate filter is different and a catalytic convertor does the NOx (nitrogen oxides). I fail...sorry

No I got it now. In fact, I had a massive fail.

[jediali]

Originally Posted by Kitdy

No I got it now. In fact, I had a massive fail.

we all fail!...

[henk4]

Originally Posted by Kitdy

Here is the original .pdf henk4. I read some of it and it seems they call the average the fleet average, whatever that means - I would assume that fleet is all the vehicles on the road and thus the fleet average would be the sum of all average of all those numbers.

how interesting, the Germans refused to supply data....

[NicFromLA]

Very interesting. Did I hear them preaching the gospel of Colin Champman? "And the Lord said unto Colin, 'If thousest save weight on thy car it shall be fun, and win thyest races and totally kick butt." Amen.

If they are proposing that governments force car companies to make their cars lighter, I would 100% support this.

[drakkie]

Whilst doing research about the oil standards I came across this link. It lists a overview of all CO2 emissions of cars in Europe, in all their different versions.

ACEA - European Automobile Manufacturers' Association