2010 Ferrari F151

[LeonOfTheDead]

I don't remember the codename atm, so for now the thread is named accordingly. The car should be unveiled either at the end of 2010 or the beginning of 2011, iirc.

Let's clarify a couple of things.
All new Ferrari are designed to accommodate the 4x4 system by Haldex.
I'm not aware of it being a 4x2. And up to some months ago it wasn't even sure they were going to use it in the end.
The upcoming F142 (aka F450/470), isn't designed to adopt the system.

None of them, the new 612 or the F142 are designed to use any sort of a Kers system, being it something a la EffiientDynamics (more likely) or a la Prius.

The bump on the hood is due to the new suspensions that allow for an adjustable riding height for speed bumps or ramps, forcing to move accordingly the rest of the mechanics.
Maybe this information could be partially incorrect, since the mule testing those suspensions had a different hood (pics 1&2, an actual 612 with the new suspensions).

The car is (90% sure) based on the F141 (aka California) aluminum platform.

I don't have words about the engine.
The come-back of turbos should happen with the new Enzo (twin turbo V8), not with this one though, afaik.

pics, mainly, from worldcarfans

[LeonOfTheDead]

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[Dino Scuderia]

The car is (90% sure) based on the F141 (aka California) aluminum platform.

Wouldn't this be too small?

[Ferrer]

Four wheel drive is bad.

Turbos are bad too (even if they aren't used in this).

[Ferrer]

Originally Posted by Dino Scuderia

Wouldn't this be too small?

LWB version a la Quattroporte probably.

[LeonOfTheDead]

Originally Posted by Dino Scuderia

Wouldn't this be too small?

it's modular, so the new 612's chassis would be longer than the California's one, even if based on the same architecture.

The next 599 is still on hold from this point of view.
The Cali's is a good point of start, being known and at his best development /at the time the car would be designed), but maybe a new platform could allow to adopt also new solutions and gain even more performance wise.

Originally Posted by Ferrer

LWB version a la Quattroporte probably.

correct, you busted me .

[Dino Scuderia]

Originally Posted by LeonOfTheDead

it's modular, so the new 612's chassis would be longer than the California's one, even if based on the same architecture.

The next 599 is still on hold from this point of view.
The Cali's is a good point of start, being known and at his best development /at the time the car would be designed), but maybe a new platform could allow to adopt also new solutions and gain even more performance wise.



correct, you busted me .

Modular indeed. 612 wheelbase is 1" longer than Maser GT and Quattroporte wheelbase is 4" longer than 612.

[LeonOfTheDead]

Originally Posted by Dino Scuderia

Modular indeed. 612 wheelbase is 1" longer than Maser GT and Quattroporte wheelbase is 4" longer than 612.

those aren't the same though.
The GT and QP (and 8C) are made of steel, not aluminum.

[Ferrer]

And by the way, no stupid stacked exhausts please.

[Dino Scuderia]

Originally Posted by LeonOfTheDead

those aren't the same though.
The GT and QP (and 8C) are made of steel, not aluminum.

So the 612 does not share the GT platform as commonly thought because the 612 is aluminum.

[LeonOfTheDead]

Originally Posted by Dino Scuderia

So the 612 does not share the GT platform as commonly thought because the 612 is aluminum.

That's it.
The QP is an evolution of the former 3200 GT/4200 GT chassis, which then spun off the GranTurismo and the 8C.

the 612 on the other hand is the first full aluminum car for Ferrari, with the 360 being partially of the same material.

For the same reason there is no correlation between the dead Maserati M139 project and the F141 aka Ferrari California.
Even if it's true the car is ideally the same, when Ferrari decided the car was going to be too expensive for a Maserati, (or better, for the price they were figuring cold have been right), the car became a Ferrari product, therefore adopting all components from Ferrari, which, step after step, brought to a whole new car. Only minor parts' design has survived.

Maserati can't share many components with Ferrari due to the costs of parts designed for much more expensive cars.
Both share (minor) parts with Fiat's cars though, when it's possible.
Some of the handbrake parts being one of them, iirc.

[NSXType-R]

What's a 4x2 setup?

[LeonOfTheDead]

Originally Posted by NSXType-R

What's a 4x2 setup?

a car that can run both on 4wd or 2wd (normally rear ones) on demand.

[NicFromLA]

Originally Posted by LeonOfTheDead

a car that can run both on 4wd or 2wd (normally rear ones) on demand.

I think you're wrong about that. The front engine V12 cars have rear transmissions, which means to make them AWD you'll need two drive shafts. Nissan does it on the GT-R and it's very heavy and very complicated. More likely you'll see it in the replacement for the 430 because doing AWD in a mid-engine car is much easier.

Also, the new issue of EVO says the follow up to the Enzo will have V12. No word on turbos.

[4wheelsonline]

I noticed the similarity in external part of the 2010 ferrari and 2010 toyota prius especially the front part.


Picture above is the 2010 Toyota Prius


2010 Toyota Prius picture like this is similar with the 2010 Ferrari Spyshots