Lamborghini Cala Concept

[ruim20]

Originally Posted by Wouter Melissen

1995 Lamborghini Cala Concept - Images, Specifications and Information

Thank you Wouter.

Where did the v10 came from? choped v12?

[Wouter Melissen]

Originally Posted by ruim20

Thank you Wouter.

Where did the v10 came from? choped v12?

I believe it was related to the V8.

[Ferrer]

Originally Posted by Kitdy

What is your problem with Lamborghini again? The AWD?

Do you just hate new things?

I jest.

I think their cars in terms of looks are absolutely stunning, and I think Lamborghinis are more about looks than driving experience frankly. The cars seem to be pretty potent as well.

I approve.

Originally Posted by Gt1Street

I wouldnt have it any other way what do you disagree with exactly ?

As I've said in the past, I don't want an Audi as a Lambo (that's you Gallardo). And the Murcielago is too sedate. And they say "AWD is part of Lamborgihni's DNA" when it so isn't. And the Miura concept was a stupid idea. And...

No denying that as far as the bussiness part is concerned Audi has done a great job.

[Gt1Street]

Originally Posted by Ferrer

As I've said in the past, I don't want an Audi as a Lambo (that's you Gallardo). And the Murcielago is too sedate. And they say "AWD is part of Lamborgihni's DNA" when it so isn't. And the Miura concept was a stupid idea. And...

No denying that as far as the bussiness part is concerned Audi has done a great job.

I think that the Murcielago is doing its job really well as a direct evolution of the Diablo; stunning, Comes in verious versions ranging from the Insane to the open top, doing its part in sports racing. I sure do with that it came in other versions aswell like the diablo came in a million and one versions.

[LeonOfTheDead]

Originally Posted by Ferrer

As I've said in the past, I don't want an Audi as a Lambo (that's you Gallardo). And the Murcielago is too sedate. And they say "AWD is part of Lamborgihni's DNA" when it so isn't. And the Miura concept was a stupid idea. And...

No denying that as far as the bussiness part is concerned Audi has done a great job.

simply, quote.

[Ferrer]

Originally Posted by Gt1Street

I think that the Murcielago is doing its job really well as a direct evolution of the Diablo; stunning, Comes in verious versions ranging from the Insane to the open top, doing its part in sports racing. I sure do with that it came in other versions aswell like the diablo came in a million and one versions.

Surely is an evolution of the Diablo and that's a good thing, but it's a bit low on drama. It needs more exhausts. And vents. And bulges. And wings.

Regarding racing success, well it hasn't got any. But that's not a problem. No Lambo has ever had racing success.

[Gt1Street]

Originally Posted by Ferrer

Surely is an evolution of the Diablo and that's a good thing, but it's a bit low on drama. It needs more exhausts. And vents. And bulges. And wings.

Regarding racing success, well it hasn't got any. But that's not a problem. No Lambo has ever had racing success.

The only Diablo I can remember had lots of vents and exhausts was the Coatl monstrosity and all of Affolters creation which cannot be counted as factory made... So I fail to see all this looking forward for "Vents and Exhausts" when no actul diablo had them to begin with

[whiteballz]

Originally Posted by Ferrer

Surely is an evolution of the Diablo and that's a good thing, but it's a bit low on drama. It needs more exhausts. And vents. And bulges. And wings.

Regarding racing success, well it hasn't got any. But that's not a problem. No Lambo has ever had racing success.

The murchi on the street doesnt need the bulges and outragous things, its so sublime and outstanding in its design you notice it straight away, this isnt the 80's anymore, people dont dress in acid wash jeans, look like they're wearing racoons on their heads - Nor should cars be continued to be styled like they used to for the sake of "nostalgia".

[Kitdy]

Originally Posted by Ferrer

As I've said in the past, I don't want an Audi as a Lambo (that's you Gallardo). And the Murcielago is too sedate. And they say "AWD is part of Lamborgihni's DNA" when it so isn't. And the Miura concept was a stupid idea. And...

640 hp is too sedate? What about when they release the Superveloce or whatever it's gonna be called?

Will that be wild enough?

[70cuda88]

Originally Posted by whiteballz

The murchi on the street doesnt need the bulges and outragous things, its so sublime and outstanding in its design you notice it straight away, this isnt the 80's anymore, people dont dress in acid wash jeans, look like they're wearing racoons on their heads - Nor should cars be continued to be styled like they used to for the sake of "nostalgia".

couldn't have said it better myself

[Wouter Melissen]

Originally Posted by whiteballz

The murchi on the street doesnt need the bulges and outragous things, its so sublime and outstanding in its design you notice it straight away, this isnt the 80's anymore, people dont dress in acid wash jeans, look like they're wearing racoons on their heads - Nor should cars be continued to be styled like they used to for the sake of "nostalgia".

The Reventon is what the Murcielago should have looked like in the first place.

[Ferrer]

Originally Posted by Gt1Street

The only Diablo I can remember had lots of vents and exhausts was the Coatl monstrosity and all of Affolters creation which cannot be counted as factory made... So I fail to see all this looking forward for "Vents and Exhausts" when no actul diablo had them to begin with

What about the SE30 Jota, the SV or the GT?

Originally Posted by whiteballz

The murchi on the street doesnt need the bulges and outragous things, its so sublime and outstanding in its design you notice it straight away, this isnt the 80's anymore, people dont dress in acid wash jeans, look like they're wearing racoons on their heads - Nor should cars be continued to be styled like they used to for the sake of "nostalgia".

True but a Lamborghini that's low on sillyness is as pointless as an overweight Lotus or a front wheel drive BMW.

Originally Posted by Kitdy

640 hp is too sedate? What about when they release the Superveloce or whatever it's gonna be called?

Will that be wild enough?

It's not about the performance. I'm sure it's plenty fast.

It's not about what you do, but how you do it too.

Originally Posted by Wouter Melissen

The Reventon is what the Murcielago should have looked like in the first place.

Exactly.

[Gt1Street]

Originally Posted by Ferrer

What about the SE30 Jota, the SV or the GT?

The SE30 Jota was simply an SVR body with a little more plastic in the rear wheel vents, no more vents then any other Diablo.
The GT was a detuned GTR and certainly got a couple more vents, much like the LP640 has more then the regular Murcielago.
And the SV simply got a roof scoop...

[Kitdy]

Originally Posted by Wouter Melissen

The Reventon is what the Murcielago should have looked like in the first place.

I don't think so.

I prefer the look of the Murcielago, though I recognize that the Reventon is truly something special.

If it is the Lamborghini's should be outrages well, I guess so, but the Diablo wasn't that outrageous stylistically and I see the Murcielago as a refinement and improvement of that theme and what I call the "wedge design" that Lamborghini introduced with the Countach.

Originally Posted by Ferrer

It's not about the performance. I'm sure it's plenty fast.

It's not about what you do, but how you do it too.

So what is it about? If it isn't performance it's looks. Is it about what I mentioned above? The outrageousness? As I recall, the early Lamborghini models were not really that outrageous - the outrageousness came with the Countach, so there certainly is room for more sublime designs - it is in accordance with Lamborghini's heritage.

[Dino Scuderia]

Originally Posted by Wouter Melissen View Post
The Reventon is what the Murcielago should have looked like in the first place.

I don't think so.

I prefer the look of the Murcielago, though I recognize that the Reventon is truly something special.

Lamborghini said recently that the Reventon's design will set the mark for future Lambo's styling.

"Speaking at the old Fiat Lingotto factory in Turin, Italy, Volkswagen Group's Design Director, Walter De Silva, discussed the future of VW, Audi and Lamborghini, keeping light on specifics, but offering more fuel for the speculative fire surrounding the future of Lamborghini.

According to CAR, De Silva waxed poetic about the aura of the group's Italian performance arm, with Design Head Manfred Fitzgerald making it clear that the Reventon's pointed proboscis and heavily canted intakes – which were supposedly penned before the launch of the Gallardo LP560-4 -- will be the primary influence for the next generation of Lamborghinis.

As for the future underpinnings of the Murcielago, Chief Engineer Maurizio Regginai wasn't willing to give up much, but said that "the power to weight ratio is key, and everything we can do to get the weight down is vital to the project" providing further proof that the welded steel chassis of current Lambos is on its way out and that aluminum will find its way under the composite skin of future models. All-wheel-drive, which has become an integral part of the "Lamborghini DNA" will continue, but when asked about the future of dual-clutch transmissions, Regginai simply said, "we have top performance in 0-100 kph with our cars, I don't understand why we'd want to change anything."