Renault 5 Turbo

[Matt]

Renault 5 Turbo

[McLareN]

Renault 5 Turbo #2:
PS: Good job SL55

[McLareN]

2048x1536 and 1280x960 pics
Renault 5 Turbo #3:

[Matra et Alpine]

Nice pics gius. Any sites you're at keep your eyes open for any Alpine-Renault pics

[Mustang]

yeah thanks guys, im sure i said that to matt before for these pics. oh well

[racerx]

Is this car rear drive? I ask because of the serious deep-dish rims and decent flaring you on the rear fenders of these cars would be pretty unecessary in a front drive car. I always assumed since it was a dinky little Renault that is was front drive, but am I mistaken?

[Matra et Alpine]

'dinky'
The original R5 Turbos are eveil fire-breathing rally specials.
They were developed to win world rallies and were awesome cars, extrememly short wheelbase for nimblesness, 1500cc TURBO producing 180-200bhp and weighed NOTHING. Won a few events but were overtaken by the arrival of 4WD GroupB specials.
There are a few technical pics of engines etc already up on UCP in variosu posts. A search will find them. Here's a vid of it in paddock at mOUNT sTUART -- Mount Stuart 2003 - Renault-Alpine

rear-t0-mid engine rear wheel drive. Engine and tranny in where the back seat passenger and boot used to be. SUPERB sounds, great to watch.

Renault revived the format with the Clio V6 which has equally excellent handling and performance UNTIL the rear's break away and then they're evil spitting monsters

[McReis]

Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine

'dinky'
The original R5 Turbos are eveil fire-breathing rally specials.
They were developed to win world rallies and were awesome cars, extrememly short wheelbase for nimblesness, 1500cc TURBO producing 180-200bhp and weighed NOTHING. Won a few events but were overtaken by the arrival of 4WD GroupB specials.

The car was more close 1400cc. The Maxi was almost 1600cc.
RWD beasts for that amount of "cc's".

[Matra et Alpine]

Originally Posted by McReis

The car was more close 1400cc. The Maxi was almost 1600cc.
RWD beasts for that amount of "cc's".

yeah, my typo.
They were all 1397s.
EVEN the ultimate MAXI with 380bhp was 1397 with Garret T4/T3 turbos

[McReis]

Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine

yeah, my typo.
They were all 1397s.
EVEN the ultimate MAXI with 380bhp was 1397 with Garret T4/T3 turbos

Check this out:


http://www.renaultsport.co.uk/herita...5maxiturbo.htm

http://www.autosrapidos.com/superaut...5turbomaxi.htm

[Matra et Alpine]

Originally Posted by McReis

Check this out:


http://www.renaultsport.co.uk/herita...5maxiturbo.htm

http://www.autosrapidos.com/superaut...5turbomaxi.htm

Thansk McReis, they've rearranged the site, same info but different pics now
Also the videos section is now full - it had one before
THANKS MAN !!!!!!

The Espace F1 in-car camera shots at Goodwood 2002 sounds great

[McReis]

Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine

Thansk McReis, they've rearranged the site, same info but different pics now
Also the videos section is now full - it had one before
THANKS MAN !!!!!!

The Espace F1 in-car camera shots at Goodwood 2002 sounds great

Have you seen the infos about the Maxi engine capacity? 1500 and something...

[Matra et Alpine]

Originally Posted by McReis

Have you seen the infos about the Maxi engine capacity? 1500 and something...

http://www.renault.com/gb/passion/co...987_maxi5turbo
1397

I'll check my books later and get the definitive answer !!!

If RENAULT can't get it right then who can ?????

[McReis]

Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine

http://www.renault.com/gb/passion/co...987_maxi5turbo
1397

I'll check my books later and get the definitive answer !!!

If RENAULT can't get it right then who can ?????

Here's an interesting knowledge battle . In normal conditions I'd nominate you as an instant winner. But I love this car, and what I've read about it is different from the data of that site.

In my book Rally Cars (Konemman) written by David Williams, john Davenport and Colin McMaster with Richard Klein's amazing photo's, it's written: 1527cc with 350bhp. It also says that it is an evolution from the 1397cc 5 Turbo. They went further with the engine capacity because the 1397 engine was built to run amongst Group 4. When Group B regs came, the car was a bit limited to compete with newcomers.

[Matra et Alpine]

Well I do know there was an evolution to 1432ish for the engine in later competitions but neve homologated.
As you pointed out there is differing info. The AUDISPORT yearbook ( the bible of rallying ) lists the final Turbos as 1430 BUT in the specs for the Maxi it lists 1527
Hmm, perhaps thre were some issues with the homologation numbers ? If they didnt' make 200 of those then they woudln't have competed unless they were de-sized to the 1397. THAT might be one explanation - the engine was made bigger and then reduced again for championship points. Don't know as we now have 4 sources all different and ALL reputable
I've asked the R5 experts in the Alpine club. Some of these guys copmeted in them and still do on the classics, so I'm expecting a definitive answer from them.
Given that Renault are French I woudln't put it past there to be a little cheating or bending of the rules causing the confusion As there is ONE Q re the book you cited -- the "Tour de Corse" model was already built to compete and was homologated to run against the GroupB NOT Group4 cars .

EDIT: Reading the finer engine details in the Audi book - The MAXI engine is 77/82 and the 'standard' was 76/77. So that would suggest thre WAS a new engine of about 1430 using the same crank as the earlier 1397 and THEN the engien was stroked to get 1527. Quite possibly there are variants with the mix of crankshafts and everyone is right and that there ARE 1397, 1430 and 1527 examples of the MAXI out there

I'll take the definitive answer when some of the French members of Club Alpine respond to me query. One of them is liekly to even give us engine numbers fomr his car to prove it