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View Poll Results: is the concept of "electoral votes" stupid?
Yes. It is lame. Popular votes matter more. 14 70.00%
No. Some people's votes are worth more than certain others. 6 30.00%
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Old 12-07-2004, 08:21 PM
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No, because if there wasn't one, then the East and West Coasts would control the election.
If thats what the public opinion is, then why not let it be. All the money/power/intelligence is based on both coasts anyway. (Minus the great-lakes region)
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We talked about this during the election threads, so it's kinda of a repost. I prefer the popular vote system becuase of it's simplicity and straight forwardness.
yes and if you had had it, the Twin Towers would still be standing tall
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Old 12-07-2004, 08:22 PM
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We talked about this during the election threads, so it's kinda of a repost. I prefer the popular vote system becuase of it's simplicity and straight forwardness.
So, say we talk about the toyota avenis in one thread, and a thread created talking about the avenis is automatically a repost? Hell no.
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yes and if you had had it, the Twin Towers would still be standing tall
The scary thing about that statement is that you're probably right henk..
BTW, my mom brought my cousin from Poland to see the WTC 6 days before they went down and my aunt quit her job in the WTC a year or so before they were attacked. She worked on the 30th-something floor I think.
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Old 12-07-2004, 08:28 PM
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yes and if you had had it, the Twin Towers would still be standing tall
I honestly hope your joking........

And Rock....only the East and West Coasts matter? What about all of our industry, agriculture etc? I'd say that controls a HUGE part of the US economics....
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Old 12-07-2004, 08:35 PM
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yes and if you had had it, the Twin Towers would still be standing tall
So you're saying that if Al Gore had been president 9/11 wouldn't have happened? If that's what you're saying henk, are you possitive?

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So, say we talk about the toyota avenis in one thread, and a thread created talking about the avenis is automatically a repost? Hell no.
We talked about this issue extensively before the election hence the "kinda", don't make it more than it is. I didn't.
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Old 12-07-2004, 08:40 PM
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I honestly hope your joking........

And Rock....only the East and West Coasts matter? What about all of our industry, agriculture etc? I'd say that controls a HUGE part of the US economics....
Damn, I was hoping no one would notice that post Well, I don't think too highly of farming so I'm biased. Especially since I live on the East coast 15 mins away from NYC.
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So you're saying that if Al Gore had been president 9/11 wouldn't have happened? If that's what you're saying henk, are you possitive?
Yes. I think the likelihood that the USA would have been attacked would have been much smaller if Al Gore had been chosen. (he had the majority of the popular vote).
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Yes. I think the likelihood that the USA would have been attacked would have been much smaller if Al Gore had been chosen. (he had the majority of the popular vote).
Yeah, I remember he won the popular vote, that's why I favor that system Remember that Bin Laden was targeted by Bill Clinton also and that BL targeted the US since the first Gulf war because as BL says: "The US invaded Saudi Arabia." One of Islam's holiest places. He targeted us ever since then. I doubt our choice of president would have influenced him to attack or not.
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Yeah, I remember he won the popular vote, that's why I favor that system Remember that Bin Laden was targeted by Bill Clinton also and that BL targeted the US since the first Gulf war because as BL says: "The US invaded Saudi Arabia." One of Islam's holiest places. He targeted us ever since then. I doubt our choice of president would have influenced him to attack or not.
Under Clinton we had the Cole incident and the attacks in Africa. Taking things to the USA is big step forward, and while Gore was a relatively colourless/boring guy, GWB is certainly more a love/hate guy of the type which you really would like to punch in the face when you don't like him.
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Under Clinton we had the Cole incident and the attacks in Africa. Taking things to the USA is big step forward, and while Gore was a relatively colourless/boring guy, GWB is certainly more a love/hate guy of the type which you really would like to punch in the face when you don't like him.
I don't think 9/11 was about "hating Bush". It was an attack on the "Great Devil" as BL and other fundamentalist like to call the US.

What may have halted the attack? The inteligence services, if they had shared information and done their jobs correctly, maybe the attack wouldn't have happened or happened on a much smaller scale.
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I don't think 9/11 was about "hating Bush". It was an attack on the "Great Devil" as BL and other fundamentalist like to call the US.

What may have halted the attack? The inteligence services, if they had shared information and done their jobs correctly, maybe the attack wouldn't have happened or happened on a much smaller scale.
That would certainly have helped, and yes there was this previous attack on the WTC in the eighties (IIRC). Nevertheless if soembody has an image of the US as the Great Devil, than it is ultimately better personified in GWB than in AG.
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That would certainly have helped, and yes there was this previous attack on the WTC in the eighties (IIRC). Nevertheless if soembody has an image of the US as the Great Devil, than it is ultimately better personified in GWB than in AG.
GWB doesn't help our image I agree. But BL would have attacked even if I was president...and I'm such a nice guy!!!

That gives me an idea!!!!!! TAZ FOR PRESIDENT!!!!
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GWB doesn't help our image I agree. But BL would have attacked even if I was president...and I'm such a nice guy!!!

That gives me an idea!!!!!! TAZ FOR PRESIDENT!!!!
I just read that the 16 US- intelligence services will come under one directorate, so they will find you out
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