James Bond back with Aston Martin for ‘CASINO ROYALE’

[Matra et Alpine]

Originally Posted by IBrake4Rainbows

Austin Healey Died with the end of British Leyland Waaaaaay Back when..

It was the START of British Leyland that killed of the Austin Healey as it existed under the previous incarnation of the british motor industry -- BMC
The last Sprite rolled of in '71

[IBrake4Rainbows]

Well there you go.

[Blue Supra]

yep..

just cant speel

[IBrake4Rainbows]

England Speeched Good, Ja?

[Blue Supra]

Ja, zer gut!

[The_Canuck]

me failed anglish? that umposilbul!

[Rockefella]

Originally Posted by Clivey

I would have thought my previous posts would have answered that...Aston would be skimping on something to bring you the car for $80,000. Think about it, a £45k Aston? Tuscans cost £50k and you're losing out on build quality and reliability when compared to a 911. I think a £45k car would, at this time, wreck the whole Aston brand because they'd be lowered from being a supreme symbol of British craftsmanship and engineering to just another one of Ford's corporate monkeys.

Ferrari is owned by FIAT, a company that makes cars in the £10k range. Volkswagen owns Lamborghini, similar story. I see no point in this argument.

Lets say for example that Aston Martin hordes all of its internals from a FoMoCo parts bin, I'd bet some of them are sourced from the Ford GT, which is probably a good thing. I think you're theory is flawed.

[Cyco]

Rock, This is a waste of time - unfortunally Mr Clivey knows far more about the evil Ford empire than we ever will.

In the RIP Vanquish thread he told me it was worse the AM used Mondeo window controllers in a Vanq (that get scratched suffaces) than Ferrari using Fiat Tipo switch gear in F40s and F50 - that would break off in you hand.

[Coventrysucks]

Originally Posted by Clivey

I really don't think Ford buying Aston will turn out to be a good thing in the long run

It's all well and good saying that, but with Aston selling about 10 cars a year before Ford bought the company and invested they would have gone bust a long time ago.

[Street_Dreamer]

Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine

baddie --- Corvette ? Z06 in black .... hmmmmm

More likely the Veyron IF they allow them to !!!!

it won't be a veyron, it'll almost certainly be a member of the Ford family... maybe the new XKR??

[spi-ti-tout]

That's a British Viper, right there.

[Street_Dreamer]

Originally Posted by spi-ti-tout

That's a British Viper, right there.

but a damn sight sexier... and i LOVE the viper to give you an idea

[Clivey]

Originally Posted by Rockefella

Ferrari is owned by FIAT, a company that makes cars in the £10k range. Volkswagen owns Lamborghini, similar story. I see no point in this argument.

Lets say for example that Aston Martin hordes all of its internals from a FoMoCo parts bin, I'd bet some of them are sourced from the Ford GT, which is probably a good thing. I think you're theory is flawed.

I didn't say Aston would be making cars at £10k, so why a "£10k car" interior? It's not as if Ford are incapable of building a decent interior, the Range Rover is proof odf that. The Ford GT's interior's actually far better than the one of the Vanquish so if they did source parts from it, they'd be making a good decision.

Originally Posted by Cyco

In the RIP Vanquish thread he told me it was worse the AM used Mondeo window controllers in a Vanq (that get scratched suffaces) than Ferrari using Fiat Tipo switch gear in F40s and F50 - that would break off in you hand.

It's much worse, the F40 and F50 aren't exactly GTs and don't really have that much of an interior at all - it's all part of the purpose of the car, to be light...but when Aston advertise their car as a grand tourer and then the MAJORITY (and I do mean the majority) of the switchgear could be found in a Mondeo I could pick up for less than £1,000, it's piss poor. If you look closely it's only after the redesign of the interior of the Vanquish that the aircon conrtols were built specifically. More or less all of the other switchgear can be traced back to domestic appliances (Fords). Fair enough, Aston designers sketched the basic shape of the dash and doorcards but after that Ford's bean counters moved in.

[Clivey]

Originally Posted by NSXType-R

LOL, good point. I don't like American cars either.

I wasn't making that kind of point, I was trying to point out your blatent stupidity...You don't like "X" because it's owned by "Y"?

My arguments about Aston have more to do with them than just the nationality of the owner of the company, but what's with not liking TVR because it's owned by a russian? So far Smolenski's influence has been a good thing at TVR - he wants to focus a little more on build quality and reliability and he has a passion for cars, rather than a large corporation's accountants and shareholders, who are typical of people who have a little power - all they want is "more". "More" profit, "more" sales, "more" in their back pockets...and less for the customer and the enthusiast.

[Cyco]

Clivey blinded by hate and ignorance, you should get on well with Fleet500

Originally Posted by Clivey

It's much worse, the F40 and F50 aren't exactly GTs and don't really have that much of an interior at all

So a million doller supercar should be made with crap componets, but a GT costing half as much should have a fully bespoke interior?

Originally Posted by Clivey

when Aston advertise their car as a grand tourer and then the MAJORITY (and I do mean the majority) of the switchgear could be found in a Mondeo

Majority?

Last time you crapped on about this you pointed to the door handles, with window controls, and the stalks. What else did you find (well seeing as you couldn't tell the difference between two pics) - nothing.

Originally Posted by Clivey

the switchgear could be found in a Mondeo I could pick up for less than £1,000

Wow, you can find a really cheap car? I'm so impressed.

Originally Posted by Clivey

If you look closely it's only after the redesign of the interior of the Vanquish that the aircon conrtols were built specifically. More or less all of the other switchgear can be traced back to domestic appliances (Fords).

That would be the clock, the gear selectors, the inbuilt stero, the traction control, the hazard lights.......