Fuel economy thread

[henk4]

Originally Posted by jediali

here...diesel = £1.10/l, petrol = £1.05 roughly

1.48 Euro for regular, 1.17 for diesel. These are the prices mostly quoted by motorway based stations. Rebates of up to 8-10 cents can be found if you select carefully.

[clutch-monkey]

interesting, close enough to make the extra efficiency of a diesel worthwhile then.
for some reason here the diesel is considerably more expensive, like a $1.50 a litre (1.40 for 98 ron unleaded)
i don't know why LPG is so much cheaper (50 cents a litre) or why the gov't is trying to get more peopel to use it.

[henk4]

Originally Posted by clutch-monkey

i don't know why LPG is so much cheaper (50 cents a litre) or why the gov't is trying to get more peopel to use it.

being a cynic: LPG is a waste product of the oil refinery process, are comes free with the extracting of crude oil. It's value is limited, and if governments would apply proportionate tax levels on a low market value product, they would see their tax income dwindle....

Prices of diesel fuel tend to be higher in countries where refinery configuration is clearly aiming at producing for petrol from the barrel. (depends on the secondary refinery process applied). Our advantageous diesel price is partly resulting from our great national interest in the European trucking business and we want to keep our competitive position.

[clutch-monkey]

Originally Posted by henk4

being a cynic: LPG is a waste product of the oil refinery process, are comes free with the extracting of crude oil. It's value is limited, and if governments would apply proportionate tax levels on a low market value product, they would see their tax income dwindle....

Prices of diesel fuel tend to be higher in countries where refinery configuration is clearly aiming at producing for petrol from the barrel. (depends on the secondary refinery process applied). Our advantageous diesel price is partly resulting from our great national interest in the European trucking business and we want to keep our competitive position.

i see, thanks for the info
i hope the bioethanol plant starts production soon as there is a massive waste of current sugar cane crops in this state

[henk4]

Originally Posted by clutch-monkey

i see, thanks for the info
i hope the bioethanol plant starts production soon as there is a massive waste of current sugar cane crops in this state

Th European Commission has officially announced that it's initial plans for biofuel were going to put an intolerable strain on agricultural resources, so they will be scaled down considerably.

[clutch-monkey]

i figured as much, similar situation in the US to isn't it?
the sugar cane here is already being supplanted by foriegn sugar regardless, if i read it properly

[henk4]

and BTW, LPG over here is 67 eurocent.

[Ferrer]

Originally Posted by clutch-monkey

interesting, close enough to make the extra efficiency of a diesel worthwhile then.
for some reason here the diesel is considerably more expensive, like a $1.50 a litre (1.40 for 98 ron unleaded)
i don't know why LPG is so much cheaper (50 cents a litre) or why the gov't is trying to get more peopel to use it.

Bear in mind that the 118i and 118d cost exactly the same, so theoretically the diesel makes sense from day one.

[jcp123]

Bike = 47.529mpg (4.95l/100km)

[jcp123]

Mustang = 17.73mpg (13.27l/100km) on a longish trip at 55mph (~90km/h)

[clutch-monkey]

my entire family averages 11L/100km (21-23mpg) during the week atm. on the weekend thanks to a bad state of tune i'm at 13L/100km (18mpg)

[roosterjuicer]

2002 chevy camaro.

28.6 average fuel economy on the highway (average speed 80mph) my best highway mileage was 29.2 and my worst was 27.6.

17.8 average fuel economy in the city so far but this last tank was my first all city tank. my best tank.

not too bad for a car with 320hp.