Lodz Gives Green Light to Street Racers

[The_Canuck]

Originally Posted by MadMax13

Canuck, your statements are such bollocks its untrue. If people want to race, and theres no tracks, theyll go to the stree. Despite what you think its better to have a section of the city cordoned off for streetracing than to have no street cordoned off, no tracks and people streetracing around the ENTIRE city...

I said they should build tracks.

It's an opinion, deal with it.

[MadMax13]

Yeah well thats like saying someone who smokes weed should smoke cigarettes, despite cigarettes costing and arm and a leg, simply because its legal, instead of the cops meeting in the middle and saying "You can only smoke weed twice a week" and the potheads agreeing to those rules all on the THEORY that people will run away with it. For a Canadian your starting to sound a LOT like an American...

[MadMax13]

Building a track is like a super car, it LOOKS fun, seems simple and and you can afford it, however, like a super car its actually stressful, difficult and EXTREMELY expensive. Youve gotta think of all the permits and fees and all that shit, then you have to make sure the ground is right so it doesnt all collapse or seperate or something, then you have to upkeep it, so on and so for and such like, before you know it your like "**** this, its too much of a hassle"...

[The_Canuck]

Originally Posted by MadMax13

Yeah well thats like saying someone who smokes weed should smoke cigarettes, despite cigarettes costing and arm and a leg, simply because its legal, instead of the cops meeting in the middle and saying "You can only smoke weed twice a week" and the potheads agreeing to those rules all on the THEORY that people will run away with it. For a Canadian your starting to sound a LOT like an American...

A Canadian sounding like an American, what a bloody tragedy, yeah, because every Canadian is left wing and every American is right wing...

How about saying people who smoke weed, can't do it anymore, and they will be arrested if they do OR legalize it completely, none of this middle ground crap that is just utter laziness, yes there are grey areas in some issues but in situations like this where something has to be clearly legal or not, you cannot encourage it unless it's legal.

My opinion is that it should be fully legal, (stupid) or illegal, heavily enforced and encouraged only when done properly at a racetrack.

If it's a hassle to build a racetrack and race there, then deal with it (draw support). Racing is not a right, it's sad but it's true.

[MadMax13]

Actually the American statement was pertaining to the typical American response just about ANY issue, which is "if we dont stop it it will spread out of control", like they said about communist Cuba, Vietnam and Soviet Union. The fact is governments are elected by the people, as are police, there for its ALWAYS a good thing when those elected ACTUALLY listen to the wants of the people, in this case theyve met with those people and theyve come to an agreement, theyve agreed to confine their recreation to the cordoned off area and the cops have agreed not to bother them so long as they keep the racing communities activities within those confines. This is a GIANT leap forward in the ongoing battle for between racers and cops, and street racing in general...

[The_Canuck]

Originally Posted by MadMax13

Actually the American statement was pertaining to the typical American response just about ANY issue, which is "if we dont stop it it will spread out of control", like they said about communist Cuba, Vietnam and Soviet Union. The fact is governments are elected by the people, as are police, there for its ALWAYS a good thing when those elected ACTUALLY listen to the wants of the people, in this case theyve met with those people and theyve come to an agreement, theyve agreed to confine their recreation to the cordoned off area and the cops have agreed not to bother them so long as they keep the racing communities activities within those confines. This is a GIANT leap forward in the ongoing battle for between racers and cops, and street racing in general...

Yes and to use really ignorant generalizations against you; just like communism, things don't always work out the way they're intended.

[ZeTurbo]

Any initiative getting street racing out of opened public streets is a good initiative.

[MadMax13]

Originally Posted by The_Canuck

Yes and to use really ignorant generalizations against you; just like communism, things don't always work out the way they're intended.

Unfortunately for you that one did work, and its hardly a generalization because while Poland is cordoning off a part of the city for street racers to race safely and keep the public safe the US is gunning to raise the drivers license age...

[MadMax13]

Originally Posted by ZeTurbo

Any initiative getting street racing out of opened public streets is a good initiative.

Indeed, i just cant get over how much of a giant leap this is for an understanding between the groups...

[The_Canuck]

Originally Posted by MadMax13

Unfortunately for you that one did work, and its hardly a generalization because while Poland is cordoning off a part of the city for street racers to race safely and keep the public safe the US is gunning to raise the drivers license age...

You implied that all Americans thought the same way, so I made and analogy that; like communism, this is an idealistic theory. (that in my opinion is doomed to fail, coincidentely like communism, people don't always follow a social theory)

[MadMax13]

In the US the government IS the people, not one person in this country can act like they had no clue any particular government member was going to do what theyve done, they ALL make plain as day what they plan to do when they acquire power. Like so Americans cant bitch about the people that are gunning for a higher drivers license age, they voted them in, they suffer the consequences, if the American people READ about the candidates theyd know what their position was. Either way this is getting off subject, since Poland cant afford to build a track they did the next best thing, the racers agreed to it, great, now we just have to see if both sides keep their agreement...

[The_Canuck]

Originally Posted by MadMax13

Poland cant afford to build a track they did the next best thing, the racers agreed to it, great, now we just have to see if both sides keep their agreement...

If there are many people worried about racing's future in that area, you think they could muster up enough money over time? (again im not entirely sure of the sit)

And yes all we have to do is wait, my original point was that I didn't think it would hold.

and btw your whole speech on how the American public votes the politicians in moots any future complaint you may make about the government because, hey, you voted them in.

[MadMax13]

No, i didnt vote them in, this election will be my first, nice try though...