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Old 01-18-2005, 05:46 AM
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New to Modeling

Hey i was just wondering what are the differences between your average $20 model from a craft store or one of those expensive tamya kits?
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Old 01-18-2005, 05:52 AM
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Hey i was just wondering what are the differences between your average $20 model from a craft store or one of those expensive tamya kits?
Tamiya kits are much better engineered, all part will fit properly, while cheaper kits may require a lot of additional work to achieve the a similar but still not the same result.
Probably it is best to start with a few cheap ones, learn some of the techniques required, and then try a Tamiya. Then you will really appreciate the difference.
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Old 01-18-2005, 05:58 AM
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I am actually in the middle of a model now its a toyota supra and i am in the middle of painting it with a metal flake blue. I use a brush to paint but i have heard of using a mini air gun. Are there any advantages/disadvantages over an airgun and a paint brush?
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Old 01-18-2005, 06:03 AM
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if the paint is sufficiently flowing you might be able to get a smooth surface without brushmarks. Use a broad tipped soft brush. In any case you should sand and polish the body to get a proper shine. Airguns provide you with all the flexibility in colour choice that you need, but also airbrush coats need to sanded and polished, to get rid of the so called orange-peel type of coat. If you know exactly which colour you want you may alternatively try a spray can in the colour.
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Old 01-18-2005, 06:04 AM
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ok thanks for all your help
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Old 01-18-2005, 06:05 AM
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ok thanks for all your help
put some pics on when ready
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Old 01-18-2005, 06:16 AM
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i dont have a digital camera sorry but i might be able to scan some regular pics to my computer
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Old 01-18-2005, 10:23 AM
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I made a model of a Testarossa a few years ago. The model was made by a small Japanese company, and surprise surprise... many of the parts didn't fit together very well at all. The result of all that was it looking like absolute rubbish and me treating it likewise
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Old 01-18-2005, 10:29 AM
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Yeah, small volume production can suck.
I'm presuming it was a resin ?
Some of the resin models I've built over the years I think I'd have been easier starting from scratch than trying to reshape the parts to fit
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Old 01-18-2005, 10:42 AM
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I made a model of a Testarossa a few years ago. The model was made by a small Japanese company, and surprise surprise... many of the parts didn't fit together very well at all. The result of all that was it looking like absolute rubbish and me treating it likewise
Was it by any chance Fujimi? They made some awfully bad quality Ferrari's which you should avoid as much as possible, unless you are a masochist
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Old 01-18-2005, 02:21 PM
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tamiya is the best out there, i have around... 6 tamiyas, including enzo+gt, also this honda civic (not tamiya) ,and im almost finished with it
i made my own body kits, now i m waiting for my spray paint
if u have any LED lights u can add sum neonz too, which i did to my civic,
its kinda kool

lets see if i can get any pics up
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tamiya is the best out there, i have around... 6 tamiyas, including enzo+gt, also this honda civic (not tamiya) ,and im almost finished with it
i made my own body kits, now i m waiting for my spray paint
if u have any LED lights u can add sum neonz too, which i did to my civic,
its kinda kool

lets see if i can get any pics up
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Old 01-18-2005, 05:35 PM
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Hey Matt... As Henk quite rightly states, you need to work on getting the paint finish right. Tamiya kits are the best quality 'everyday' kits as they fit together best and typically have the best instructions and most realistic decals.

For getting a good paint finish, spraying is best (ideally an airbrush with compressor) but you can get an OK finish with a brush and some elbow grease. If the kit has some detail, you may want to thin down the paint a little so that it doesn't fill the shut lines etc. Sand down between applications of paint so you get a smooth finish and, if possible, dry the freshly painted kit in a dust-free environment. Nothing worse than dust in your bodywork!

I think this is a repost but is a useful tutorial for the perfect finish:
http://italianhorses.net/Tutorials/P...aint/paint.htm
Check out the high-gloss finish on that 360!!!
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Was it by any chance Fujimi? They made some awfully bad quality Ferrari's which you should avoid as much as possible, unless you are a masochist
Fujimi's suck unless you have the patience to build them. It took me 3 months to build a complete 356 Speedster by them, but it was well worth the time. Same with my 911 RS. I once found a 944 by Hasegawa, and included felt to put over the seats. Very nice, well fitting model, but it was old, hard to find and there was too much open room in the engine bay.

It will sound lazy, but you can achieve perfect polished off body paint like that in the link above by simply using Tamiya sprays! They come out perfect every time!
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Old 01-20-2005, 11:57 AM
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Fujimi's suck unless you have the patience to build them. It took me 3 months to build a complete 356 Speedster by them, but it was well worth the time. Same with my 911 RS. I once found a 944 by Hasegawa, and included felt to put over the seats. Very nice, well fitting model, but it was old, hard to find and there was too much open room in the engine bay.

It will sound lazy, but you can achieve perfect polished off body paint like that in the link above by simply using Tamiya sprays! They come out perfect every time!
The Fujimis you built are from the professional series, which have full engine detail and the lot. (there were Dino's, Contahcs, the BMW 6 coupe and many Porsches, and the Stratos). The engineers involved in that series left Fujimi several years ago and they are now working for other Japanese companies, (Model Factory Hiro if I am not mistaken).
Hasegawa also had a small series of fully detailed cars, not only the 944, there was also a 328GTS and the Jaguar XJS racing, which I both built a long time ago.
I also use almost always Tamiya spray cans but to remove the orange peel effect (not happening with all colours though) wet sanding and polishing is most of the time required, to get a really deep shine You don't want to spray a heavy coat, otherwise the panellines become totally filled up.
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