General Photography Competition #155 [Voting]

[LeonOfTheDead]

Originally Posted by John Thawley

But for me, this was not the time, I wanted your eye to go down stream to the bridge... and further left to the direction of the light.

and this is way you "deserve" votes.

great job.

and your discussions/tips are always welcome.

[#1 Mustang Fan]

I'd have to agree with John (About the contests and his image). The River draws you eye to the sunset. It gives a sort of new perspective to the image.

[superwaxer]

Originally Posted by John Thawley

I have not voted.

While I understand your defense of your image, the fact remains, you submitted two images, not one. Regardless if you put them side by side or stacked them on top of each other, the fact remains, it's a composite of two images. Pixel manipulation is pixel manipulation. So, I respectfully disagree.

The wider field of view you're proposing could have been accomplished simply by cropping at a 16x9 aspect ratio.

What troubled me most about your image (which is quite nice, btw) is the fact you didn't straighten the horizon. With all the work in Photoshop, I'd have thought you'd catch that.

Anyway.. I guess the guidelines for submission are subject to interpretation.. and you've got yourself a winning photo and a nice one at that.

JT

PS: This totally flies in the face of your argument... it references sensor... not monitor or file.

Thanks. I always like receiving feedback from other photographers because it helps me to improve my photographs. I think all shots should be given feedback like this.

As I mentioned before, Im very sensitive when it comes to post-processing my photos in photoshop mainly because I used to be a more traditional film photographer a few years back. One thing I have noticed though - over a six year period of time - is that judges can never agree on what they "dislike" about a photograph. Three judges wouyld say they dont like the skew horizon while two other ones would say they like it that way.

Its all a matter of opinion I guess.

[John Thawley]

Originally Posted by superwaxer

Three judges wouyld say they dont like the skew horizon while two other ones would say they like it that way.

Its all a matter of opinion I guess.

Except, in this case, the shot IS the horizon.

Thanks,

JT

[superwaxer]

Originally Posted by John Thawley

Except, in this case, the shot IS the horizon.

Thanks,

JT

Yes, the horizon is skew. You have mentioned that already. It has been mentioned a few times. I knew that when I posted the picture.

Im not some random guy that picked up a camera in an alleyway one day and started taking photographs! I have been involved in photography for quite some time and I know what it takes to take good pictures. I may not have a Canon 1D with all the L-series lenses, but I do take my photography seriously.

Yes JT, is is extremely sad that the majority of voters liked my photo more than yours, but I didnt start criticising your photographs when I was the losing one in the previous voting threads.

So yes, my horizon is skew. You may not like it and a whole bunch of other voters might not like it either, but to me and the majority of voters out there, it works just fine.

The beauty is in the eye of the beholder. No photograph is really "bad", there are just some other photographs that people like better. I dont consider myself to be a good photographer, I consider myself to be a enthusiastic photographer like the rest. Every photographer must enjoy photography, regardless of what other people think. I have entered this photograph so I can participate in photogrpahy, not to be proven better than the rest.

So thanks to evryone that voted for my picture. I will try to keep all my future entries as original as possible.

[John Thawley]

Originally Posted by superwaxer

Yes JT, is is extremely sad that the majority of voters liked my photo more than yours, but I didnt start criticising your photographs when I was the losing one in the previous voting threads.

So, I can't make a comment because I don't have as many votes as you? LOL -

No where did anyone say or imply you were a random guy or needed a better camera. I simply responded to your comment about judging being subjective. Nothing more, nothing less.

At the end of the day, you submitted a picture of the horizon. Not a house, not a car, not a dog... the horizon. In this case, it's not a matter of taste... the horizon is straight. ALL OVER THE WORLD.

But, please... don't try to imply this was sour grapes. If I can't freely comment on a photo, then what is the point of participating... maybe you are here to "be the best?

Apologies if I've hurt your feelings.

JT

[superwaxer]

Originally Posted by John Thawley

So, I can't make a comment because I don't have as many votes as you? LOL -

No where did anyone say or imply you were a random guy or needed a better camera. I simply responded to your comment about judging being subjective. Nothing more, nothing less.

At the end of the day, you submitted a picture of the horizon. Not a house, not a car, not a dog... the horizon. In this case, it's not a matter of taste... the horizon is straight. ALL OVER THE WORLD.

But, please... don't try to imply this was sour grapes. If I can't freely comment on a photo, then what is the point of participating... maybe you are here to "be the best?

Apologies if I've hurt your feelings.

JT

Dont stress, my feelings arent hurt that easily! LOL -

I simply said that the angle of the horizon in this photo can be a matter of opinion. Then you shot me off by saying its not!? And dont tell me its not because it is. I have seen some brilliant photographs where the horizon isnt straight due to mountains and edgy coastlines where it didnt affect the overall quality of the picture in any way.

The reason why the horizon didnt bother me is because I wasnt trying to portray the horizon. Its a coastline and theres no water running of the image anywhere.

I always enjoy people giving me feedback on my photographs, please just dont make silly sarcastic comments.

And no, Im not trying to be the best, if I was I would have been entering my pictures somewhere else like worth1000 or something. On the contrary, there is no "best" in photography, if there was I would have stopped years ago.

Hope my previous post wasnt too offending JT, I tend to post stuff without reading it through. I get a "little" excited sometimes!

No hard feelings!

[#1 Mustang Fan]

Where did you take that Super? Looks like a interesting spot.

[superwaxer]

Originally Posted by #1 Mustang Fan

Where did you take that Super? Looks like a interesting spot.

Its was taken at Raglan. Its a very nice spot when its not windy!

Where do you stay in NZ?

[John Thawley]

Originally Posted by superwaxer

Its was taken at Raglan. Its a very nice spot when its not windy!

Where do you stay in NZ?

My daughter lives in Nelson(?) - just move there but has been in NZ for about two years now.

JT

[superwaxer]

Originally Posted by John Thawley

My daughter lives in Nelson(?) - just move there but has been in NZ for about two years now.

JT

We have something in common then! I moved to New Zealand about two years ago as well. Its a lovely country, nice people, nice food, nice scenery... you name it. I was concidering to go study in Nelson before I decided on Hamilton. How does she find it?

[John Thawley]

Originally Posted by superwaxer

We have something in common then! I moved to New Zealand about two years ago as well. Its a lovely country, nice people, nice food, nice scenery... you name it. I was concidering to go study in Nelson before I decided on Hamilton. How does she find it?

They love it... and from the pictures, I can see why. It seems the lifestyle is almost like America in the 50's. Happy, safe... a nice place for their son. And, as you know, the landscapes and vistas are spectacular. They have an amazing view from their home.

JT

[#1 Mustang Fan]

Originally Posted by superwaxer

Its was taken at Raglan. Its a very nice spot when its not windy!

Where do you stay in NZ?

Feilding. I've heard Raglan is a very nice spot, it'll get put on my places to visit when or if I bother to make one