[quote=LeonOfTheDead;964231]The diesel engine is too heavy. Go for the 1.2 TSi.[/quote]
Actually the heavier diesel gives you better front end grip actually carrying more g's through a corner than Koenigggisggeeeggg in its name.
Probably.
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[quote=LeonOfTheDead;964231]The diesel engine is too heavy. Go for the 1.2 TSi.[/quote]
Actually the heavier diesel gives you better front end grip actually carrying more g's through a corner than Koenigggisggeeeggg in its name.
Probably.
[quote=Ferrer;964263]Actually the heavier diesel gives you better front end grip actually carrying more g's through a corner than Koenigggisggeeeggg in its name.
Probably.[/quote]
I love the signature Ferrer "probably," to end a post. Did you steal that from somewhere (TG maybe?) or is it an original?
I took it from SniffPetrol. They don't seem to do it much any more though.
Which is a shame.
Probably.
taken from Carlsberg ad fame :)
I think It must be BMW M3 cruise....
I would nominate the Porsche Bosxter S as the ultimate handler (that you can drive every day). In a recent EVO test it was faster than the Porsche 911 S, also, the "rookie" tester said it inspired more confidence so it was easier to achieve those times.
Red Bull x1 (x2010) lol
No doubt the MX-5 is a great handling car. Bu I think you are missing some serious contenders:
These are all very celebrated in their respective categories...
BMW M3 E30, 318is, 320is, M3 CS (E46) Any Porsche 997 or 996 (except the GT2), Boxster, Peugeot 205 GTi, 309 GTi, Clio Williams, Clio 182 Trophy, Honda NSX, Integra Type R, Civic Type R (not the new one) various Mitsu EVO's and Impreza's, Lotus Elan, Elise, Exige, Zonda F, Audi R8
But this is such an individual thing to talk about. An e39 523i handles excellent compared to an A6, A Clio 182 much better than a Stilo HGT and so on. I think it is very wrong to talk about the best handling car, regardless of any categorization, as there is not much sense in comparing an FF like Clio to an RR like a 911.
Which car handles better? The fastest 'round a track or the most involving on a curly B-road?
Well, I could talk about this forever...
Just my 5 cents
[quote=acmilan2050;972746]No doubt the MX-5 is a great handling car. Bu I think you are missing some serious contenders:
These are all very celebrated in their respective categories...
BMW M3 E30, 318is, 320is, M3 CS (E46) Any Porsche 997 or 996 (except the GT2), Boxster, Peugeot 205 GTi, 309 GTi, Clio Williams, Clio 182 Trophy, Honda NSX, Integra Type R, Civic Type R (not the new one) various Mitsu EVO's and Impreza's, Lotus Elan, Elise, Exige, Zonda F, Audi R8
But this is such an individual thing to talk about. An e39 523i handles excellent compared to an A6, A Clio 182 much better than a Stilo HGT and so on. I think it is very wrong to talk about the best handling car, regardless of any categorization, as there is not much sense in comparing an FF like Clio to an RR like a 911.
Which car handles better? The fastest 'round a track or the most involving on a curly B-road?
Well, I could talk about this forever...
Just my 5 cents[/quote]
you will be allowed to talk forever if you will not include any spam links.
best handling car is bmw
[quote=Kevin123;977844]best handling car is bmw[/quote]
Its clearly not, Lada is the best handling car.
I may be rehashing some old posts because I've not bothered to read the whole thread (12 pages, really?). But it can be very hard to quantify what makes a good handling car. Grip can be measured, but that is merely one facet. Steering is much harder to compare without actually driving the cars in question. We (or most of us, I ought to say) will never be able to drive many of the cars that have been discussed here.
I personally have a deep seated belief in Caterhams for their super small size. A short wheelbase with (comparatively) big tires, a good ride (or so I've heard), pin point, unassisted steering (or so I've heard), fantastic brakes (or so I've heard), lightweight, and a range of horsepowers, all can make for fantastic cars, regardless of driver skill. If you know how to work the wheel you can have a 250BHP monster, or a novice could drive an entry level 100BHP put-put. And even with 100BHP, you will have a comparatively fast car for its price. Yes, their are faster track cars that follow the same philosophy of extreme lightweight with moderate power (the Atom for example), but it doesn't do so well on the street (or so I've heard).
The most fun I've had behind the wheel of car, the car only had maybe 70bhp on a good day...:D
It does however, only weight ~600lb with a driver...
[quote=RacingManiac;977923]The most fun I've had behind the wheel of car, the car only had maybe 70bhp on a good day...:D
It does however, only weight ~600lb with a driver...[/quote]
vintage Mini? Lotus?
FSAE car...
Next year I should be able to take a spin in ours!