Faster than a BMW 325e? Is being faster than something built for economy really something to crow about? "Faster than a car that was built to be slow!"
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Faster than a BMW 325e? Is being faster than something built for economy really something to crow about? "Faster than a car that was built to be slow!"
So pigs did fly once. Imagine that.
Turbo is great ,.... who says wrong :@
A 6.2l V8 in the old C63 is better than a 5.4L Twin turbo V8, well that what i think. I will miss big 6.2l V8 in Merc. It all comes down to fuel and Co2. Like i said, shame.
[quote=thebrochureman;968121]A 6.2l V8 in the old C63 is better than a 5.4L Twin turbo V8, well that what i think. I will miss big 6.2l V8 in Merc. It all comes down to fuel and Co2. Like i said, shame.[/quote]
Sorry, I have to disagree with you (and most of the others, too).
While I will certainly miss the 6.2 which has already reached legendary status, the new 5.4 does everything right. The sound is MASSIVE (I've already seen and heard a new CL63 at a dealership), the torque is unbelievable and the fuel mileage is unexpectedly high for the power it delivers.
AMG hasn't done anything wrong in my eyes. They knew what they were doing when they made this engine.
However, I'm still waiting for the 6.8l engine to come :D.
Old schoold V8 will be missed in an old school way.
Time to move to electricity.
Probably.
[quote=Commodore GS/E;968126]Sorry, I have to disagree with you (and most of the others, too).
While I will certainly miss the 6.2 which has already reached legendary status, the new 5.4 does everything right. The sound is MASSIVE (I've already seen and heard a new CL63 at a dealership), the torque is unbelievable and the fuel mileage is unexpectedly high for the power it delivers.
AMG hasn't done anything wrong in my eyes. They knew what they were doing when they made this engine.
However, I'm still waiting for the 6.8l engine to come :D.[/quote]
The 5.4 twin turbo V8 will be good and it sounds great, it's a great engine, the power is high and the torque is still high. And it's better on fuel which is great especily as fuel prices keep climbing.
But i will miss that 6.2L V8.
I doubt a 5.4 litre engine (with a turbo) will be much better on fuel than a 6.2... no matter what the official figures say.
[quote=Ferrer;968237]I doubt a 5.4 litre engine (with a turbo) will be much better on fuel than a 6.2... no matter what the official figures say.[/quote]
They did it because of the better torque curve and the better tax class.
I mean nobody who buys an AMG cares about mileage.
Probably Not that much better, are we talking about the engine in the Merc CL63 because if so it is twin turbocharged or are we talking about a diffrent AMG engine?
[quote=thebrochureman;968241]Probably Not that much better, are we talking about the engine in the Merc CL63 because if so it is twin turbocharged or are we talking about a diffrent AMG engine?[/quote]
Let's see for the new 5.4...
More torque? Check.
Less displacement? Check.
Less taxes? Check.
Yep, I'm right.
Just for the record we would have the same taxes on the 5.4 than on the 6.2.
And I think that I would actually pay the same as I do now.
[quote=Ferrer;968237]I doubt a 5.4 litre engine (with a turbo) will be much better on fuel than a 6.2... no matter what the official figures say.[/quote]
They can still make concessions in the engine design like the combustion chamber and cam profiles to give economy at the expense of power and make up for it with the turbos.
[quote=Commodore GS/E;968247]Let's see for the new 5.4...
More torque? Check.
Less displacement? Check.
Less taxes? Check.
Yep, I'm right.[/quote]
Sorry, i didn't mean "not much to you" i agree with you about why turbo. I was replying to Ferrer post and as i was posting you posted and beat me to it. When i was writing the post you hadn't posted. Like i said Sorry.
Most are switching to force induction "smaller" motor for emission reason as well....CO2 figure tend to be much better for those....
At least until particulate emission becomes a problem....something the DI engines will have to content with in the near future....
The big normally aspirated motor that can rev will always be more emotionally more interesting IMO. But as with anything else their time is fading fast...