Just saw it at Hotdocs festival in Toronto. Very well done, lots of rare footage, great editing with good music....if you get a chance to see it you owe it to yourself to watch it....
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Just saw it at Hotdocs festival in Toronto. Very well done, lots of rare footage, great editing with good music....if you get a chance to see it you owe it to yourself to watch it....
Cool.
Will it be available on DVD? (Probably not Blu-Ray, but sure, why not hope for it?)
I know it's coming out in the states sometime in June but it probably won't be widely released so I hope I live near a theater that shows a lot of indie movie type stuff like that. I want to see this movie so bad. Otherwise I'll just Netflix it when it comes out on DVD.
[quote=RacingManiac;966489]Just saw it at Hotdocs festival in Toronto. Very well done, lots of rare footage, great editing with good music....if you get a chance to see it you owe it to yourself to watch it....[/quote]
I was in the rush line, because I forgot to get tickets. Didn't get in.
We coulda seen each other. Did you see the red R8 that drove by?
Nope I missed it...did you see a guy who walked by wearing a VW hat?
[quote=RacingManiac;966539]Nope I missed it...did you see a guy who walked by wearing a VW hat?[/quote]
Nah man. A blue MkIV GTI (maybe R32?) with dealer plates drove by a few times.
My friend and I were about 100th in line and waited from about 8:10-9. When did you show up?
oh cool! Senna is Top Gun! I saw the memorial dediction for him on Top Gear. That was some good footage!!! Love it!
Walked in about 8:50-ish...
The director was actually present and he mentioned that the film should be in wide release in Aug....
3rd June here in UK. Already got it planned :)
[quote=NSXType-R;966502]Cool.
Will it be available on DVD? (Probably not Blu-Ray, but sure, why not hope for it?)[/quote]
Amazon currently lists the Italian Import original as 2 DVDs or single Blu-Ray. However it is PAL, Region 2 only, in English, Italian, Portuguese, & Japanese, so it will not do much good unless you have a PAL multi-region player.
NetFlix lists it as wait listed with availability date "unknown". I have saved it to my wish list.
^^^^ :( That's the kind of crap that the industry doesn't seem to realise LEADS to copies being shared on the internet :)
One day they'll realise that their models are archaic and move to a streaming thing world over.. probably once they're all bankrupted and have to start again. It's all but impossible to [legally] view things on demand here.
See also region locking and video games.. sometimes there's literally no other way than piracy to play something, simply because they chose to region lock in Japan and/or the US then not release it anywhere else. Sure, sometimes it's not economically viable to release a small game in a niche region, but at least let us import it! (Yes, I really would).
re the streaming, for Brit ex-pats working in the oil industry I know of a few companies who bypass this and charge £40 a month to let them view any UK terrestrial/satellite/cable channel. All bordering on illegal but plays a loophole in the wording and they get away with it for now !
The industry coudl easily go to streaming but realise then it woudl be even MORE obvious how much excess profit exists !!!
[quote=Matra et Alpine;966600]^^^^ :( That's the kind of crap that the industry doesn't seem to realise LEADS to copies being shared on the internet :)[/quote]
The annoying thing is, this was released some time ago, but the various distributer perceptions has limited that release to what they see as a niche market, for both theater and consumer DVD release. For other than Brazil and Italy that is.:)
I fear my wait for a Region 1, NTSC, English edition is going to be a long one. That is almost enough to goad me into some sort of criminal action.
Or just get a PAL disc and play on your PC to TV....thats how I get some concert DVD....
[quote=RacingManiac;966639]Or just get a PAL disc and play on your PC to TV....thats how I get some concert DVD....[/quote]
I have another sneakier and more dubious method of getting around PAL and region encoding, but I'll deny I ever said that. :)
I know what you mean, but I am just supplying less dubious method of keeping it legal....though I am not actually sure playing PAL disc on PC in NTSC region is actually frown about by the copyright people....
It's a difficult one. The rights people wanted all drives in PCs for example to be locked to a region when a user first uses it and then that's it. MOST have a compromise knowing that installs often dont work first time and allow 3 or 4 changes before locked.
Same with commercial players, they are "locked" for import.
So, you are technially breaking copyright.
But as with all tech they missed the point adn instructions abound for removing these checks/limits :)
[quote=Savageduck;966577]Amazon currently lists the Italian Import original as 2 DVDs or single Blu-Ray. However it is PAL, Region 2 only, in English, Italian, Portuguese, & Japanese, so it will not do much good unless you have a PAL multi-region player.
NetFlix lists it as wait listed with availability date "unknown". I have saved it to my wish list.[/quote]
Thanks- it might work with a PS3 then.
2 versions of the movie are out btw
a 1 hour 40, & another over 2 & 1/2 hours
the karting world champ terry fullerton was spouting off how senna never got the best of him. i was thinking "yeah - but he went on to multiple formula 1 championships - wth did you ever do!"
^^^ Well to be fair it was SENNA who said Terry was the best driver he'd raced against !!
Saw Senna last night (after tracking down a screening!). Really good documentary, very well edited and the story well told. Some amazing onboard bits too...
Thought Prost got a bit of a hammering but it mellowed a bit in the end.
Just back from watching it.
Excellent documentary on his life and feelings.
Balestre comes over as a complete DICK and prost not far behind !
Interesting to see the Senna "walk out" of the drivers briefing and finally grasp what it was about !!
The scenes of drivers deaths are a little disturbing, not sure if it's remembering it from linve, the extended period or just the big screen.
A definite "must see" for anyone who appreciates motorsport and just the passion of a sportsman.
I don't know if prost comes over a complete dick, in the end they showed that he was a pallbearer at the funeral and that he is a key contributor to the senna foundation and how senna said that he missed him when they weren't team mates anymore. I reckon it is just that as Senna was the hero of the film, Prost had to be the villain.
Dont think we watched the same movie or lived through the F1 of the time.
Prost was and is a mainpulator. It's what made him great and deserves respect for that level of focus and "Professionalism" to be top dog.
What got me was how MUCH WORSE than I remembered from the time that Balestre was.
(re)Found someone who makes Ecclestone look reasonable and rational :) :)
I finally saw Senna. For anyone on this board, it is required viewing.
[quote=Badsight;966675]2 versions of the movie are out btw
a 1 hour 40, & another over 2 & 1/2 hours
the karting world champ terry fullerton was spouting off how senna never got the best of him. i was thinking "yeah - but he went on to multiple formula 1 championships - wth did you ever do!"[/quote]
The best drivers don't always make it big. Money talks.
According to the Wiki, Fullerton actually did make it big - he won the British Karting championship several times and trained some top-flight drivers.
Finally saw Senna on Netflix; it wasn't what I expected, and was probably the better for it. YouTube docs and such harp on about how Senna was a great driver and a great man, but they rarely show anything demonstrating his goodness as a person. I liked that the movie focused more on the man than the racing, which had been done to death. Prior to watching I would have described Senna as immature, prone to tantrums, and a prima donna from what I've seen. The movie did a lot to elucidate why he'd acted like he had, and while he cannot be completely absolved of his wrongs I can now understand why he is so respected and loved.
[quote=f6fhellcat13;982040]Finally saw Senna on Netflix; it wasn't what I expected, and was probably the better for it. YouTube docs and such harp on about how Senna was a great driver and a great man, but they rarely show anything demonstrating his goodness as a person. I liked that the movie focused more on the man than the racing, which had been done to death. Prior to watching I would have described Senna as immature, prone to tantrums, and a prima donna from what I've seen. The movie did a lot to elucidate why he'd acted like he had, and while he cannot be completely absolved of his wrongs I can now understand why he is so respected and loved.[/quote]
I was thinking the same thing after I saw it! Though I hardly knew anything of him before seeing the movie. I only knew what a scroll through wikipedia told me. and what I've heard on here. Great movie nonetheless. I tried explaining the movie to my friends and, being used to NASCAR, don't appreciate the different atmosphere of the F1 world and its drivers.
I also got around to seeing Senna just now.
Excellent documentary, although I can see how Prost is a big manipulator, you can see that in Michael Schumacher as well. Honestly, as a racing driver, you do what you need to win. It may not be pretty, but that's the way races are won, and if you can get the governing body to side with you, you're already at an advantage.
It's not good sportsmanship or honorable to win that way, but to see Senna try stick to his roots and his morals as much as he can against the odds, that was nice to see. I never quite understood why Senna was so well received in Brazil, but the film gives great context into why, and I understand now the reason. They hd something to look forward to with Senna, something to get away from the poverty and politics of Brazil.
From just being around these forums, I've always known Senna was a great driver, but it was just so sad to know the ending from the very start of the movie. And then to see him rocket so quickly upwards and then to have it all end so quickly, it just reminds me of how fragile life really is.
And I never lived through that period of F1, so I never got to see how bad Balestre was. What an ass.
Just curious, the 2.5 hour one, is that only on DVD/Blu Ray? The Netflix one is 1.5 hours.