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Who would win on the track
Bugatti Veyron
[IMG]http://www.bugattirevue.com/revue20/12.jpg[/IMG]
1001 bhp
987 lb/ft
4,100lb
or
Ferrari FXX
[IMG]http://www.carpw.com/pictures/ferrari/Ferrari_FXX_Concept_05_1_m.jpg[/IMG]
800+ bhp
-3,000lb
this is a purely fictional race considering it will probably never happen i just want to know who people would theortically be faster on a track such as the nurburgring
I hope no one has done this comparison yet
I personally think the FXX would win because of its lighter weight and better aero
It'd be close though I'd say the Veyron would prevail as that seems to be more aimed at high speed where as the FXX seems more a track car and probably has less top end power, essential for the 'ring as it's a pretty high-speed circuit.
tru i just suggested the ring as it is the best known track
okay why is there even a contest?
the FXX is a TRACK CAR DAMMIT, not some luxury rocket made for unathletic CEOs UUUGGGHHHHHH!!!! :mad: and the FXX handling? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!
[QUOTE=d-quik]okay why is there even a contest?
the FXX is a TRACK CAR DAMMIT, not some luxury rocket made for unathletic CEOs UUUGGGHHHHHH!!!! :mad: and the FXX handling? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?![/QUOTE]
Yes, a track car which was developed on the Ferrari test track ... a slow circuit. The more I think about it, the less I doubt that the Veyron would win. If it was a slower circuit, the FXX would win (though the Veyron would challenge it on the straights if they are long enough).
oops....didnt realise the stipulation of fastest on track.... ah well......
How about the fact that the FXX has slick tyres? I'd say that made it pretty decisive.
I think the FXX would run away from the veyron without much of a challenge.
The Veyron is a luxury performer- it's made to cruise and straightline speed. Even if it had handling it's so heavy it's not going to handle. The FXX would run circles around it.
haha
in retrospect this was a pointless thread but i thought it should be done
I want to see the veryon vs FXX on Laguna Seca! But I think the fxx would win on most any track.
fxx is a track car...
My god the FXX is ugly, it would probably win the race and I hope it doesn't stop afterwards instead just driving off to a dark cave where nobody has to look at it.
[QUOTE=:Exige:]Yes, a track car which was developed on the Ferrari test track ... a slow circuit. The more I think about it, the less I doubt that the Veyron would win. If it was a slower circuit, the FXX would win (though the Veyron would challenge it on the straights if they are long enough).[/QUOTE]i can't think of any non-circular/oval track that would allow the veyron to win
fxx no doubt about. better comparo is enzo CGT and Veyron and maybe throw a zonda in or koensigg. those cars
this isnt a fair comparison atall..
[QUOTE=NSXType-R]The Veyron is a luxury performer- it's made to cruise and straightline speed. Even if it had handling it's so heavy it's not going to handle. The FXX would run circles around it.[/QUOTE]
Actually the Veyron is referred to as the elise´s big brother.. its quick on the straights and twisties. Some say it could even challenge a modern F1 car... but thats just what they say.
Carrying more than a 1,000 pounds more weight I think the Veyron will be at a disadvantage. Especially after a few laps when its cooked its brakes. FXX will win on anything but the fastest tracks, tracks which don't required regular braking.
**The Veyron will however win in a LA to Vegas run.
A diesel Lupo would beat them both in an LA to Vegas run since it won't have to stop at every petrol station.
The Nordschleife is a fast circuit, but the Veyron won't have the advantage because its 30 odd mph top speed over the FXX will be unobtainable on such a "short" straight.
The corners, not straights, are what matters at the Nordschleife, and on grippy slicks with a racing suspension set up, the Veyron doesn't stand a chance.
i reckon it'd be a close one, but i'd give it to the FXX, mostly down to its tyres and suspension being designed for the track not the road. But every review of the Veyron has praised its handling, so I reckon it'd be close, maybe a case of the Veyron getting away on the straights and the FXX getting ahead in the bends and under brakes. Also, I think the Veyron driver would have a much better time, esp. with AWD, than the FXX driver
[QUOTE=2ndclasscitizen]maybe a case of the Veyron getting away on the straights and the FXX getting ahead in the bends and under brakes. Also, I think the Veyron driver would have a much better time, esp. with AWD, than the FXX driver[/QUOTE]
I doubt that the Veyron, on road tyres, has much of an advantage over the FXX under acceleration, bearing in mind that the FXX is on slicks and is much, much, much lighter, and it will also be carrying a higher corner-exit speed.
So the advantage on the straights isn't much.
I suspect that with nearly 2.5tonnes to hustle through numerous high speed corners and repeated heavy braking the tyres and brakes would begin to fade quite rapidly as well on the Veyron.
bugatti..
[QUOTE=scientific]bugatti..[/QUOTE]
thanks for the input senor vague
the veyrons so called Speed adavantage dosn't apply here. the car will only go to 220 somthing mph until you Stop the car put another key in some slot turn it then drive. but once your in top speed mode if you turn the car it will revert back to its normal mode allowing it to again only go 220 somthing mph
[QUOTE=The_Canuck]the veyrons so called Speed adavantage dosn't apply here. the car will only go to 220 somthing mph until you Stop the car put another key in some slot turn it then drive. but once your in top speed mode if you turn the car it will revert back to its normal mode allowing it to again only go 220 somthing mph[/QUOTE]
oh yeah, forgot i heard that in c/d good call.
but yeah the veyron only goes to 230 in handling mode and is the default when u use the breaks or apply a decent amount of steering input when in topspeed mode
Where in the hell are you gonna use that to speed. That cars stupid and I think many buyers will probably get hurt or killed because the car is just to fast.
so they veyron basically would have no chance on anything but a huge oval since it
A: won't have a much higher top speed
B: wouldn't be able to keep up in the twisties, regardless of how clarkson said it handles
C: is too heavy and unprepard for the type of track work the fxx was designed for
[QUOTE=rev440]Where in the hell are you gonna use that to speed. That cars stupid and I think many buyers will probably get hurt or killed because the car is just to fast.[/QUOTE]
c/d did say it was very twitchy/scary at 250 and felt almost like it was uncontrollable
someone is gonna die in that car because its top speed has been hyped so much that every one that gets one will want to test it and someone who is a better talker than driver will hit a tree at 200+ mph
then the veyron will have another record. highest crash speed for a production car
vw is playing with fire on this one
the veyron imo was only built to build recognition for buggati so that VW can make some money off them and to make it so people will say "well, buggati built the fastest car so their cars must be good"
there's something about the Fxx that screams no.......it just doesn't seem all that good....not unrefined or bad by any standards....just not-so-good.....given the two, I would take the Enzo over the Fxx
[quote=h00t_h00t;467501]My god the FXX is ugly, it would probably win the race and I hope it doesn't stop afterwards instead just driving off to a dark cave where nobody has to look at it.[/quote]
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Thanks, Sledgehammer. I was going to politely ask him to add spaces and capitalization, but you did that.
To the new guy - welcome to the forum, but please try to use proper English capitalization, spelling, and punctuation. It's hard enough to type while foaming at the mouth from some troll post; reading something poorly written just makes it harder. :D
Not that I'm saying you are a troll or anything.
What i find strange is that his join date is nearly two years ago and this is his first post.
Awww, Sledgehammer... but it was so entertaining before. :D Two years of preparation wasted.