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UCP 2011 COTY Award
What about the UCP awards?
I do not have much time to explain my idea before leaving, but I would be a nice way of ending the year and trying to reactivate the forums. I'd be willing to organise them.
I would limit it to the COTY, nominations by a panel of senior members, then everyone can vote. I'd also advertise them in the main page.
What do you think?
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Sounds like a good idea, every car website worth its salt has a COTY award at the end of the year. How would it work? New cars, race cars, cars featured by UCP in the past year or whatever the nominators feel has made an impact in the last 12 months?
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I was just thinking about this. I'd say anyone can nominate; I don't like the idea of allowing only some people to. Road cars, must have been new in 2011.
Other than that, pretty simple.
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Last time it was done, maybe 2 years ago it got pretty messy with the polling. But sure, I wouldn't mind it being done again.
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[quote=NSXType-R;978481]Last time it was done, maybe 2 years ago it got pretty messy with the polling. But sure, I wouldn't mind it being done again.[/quote]
The one issue. People come out of the woodwork to propose CotYs. Beyond the apparent issue of elitism in allowing only some to nominate cars, how do you determine who composes the nomination committee?
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Members that have posted the most often for the last 6 months?
I wanted to limit nominations precisely for the problem NSX mentions.
I'd also limit to production road cars introduced in 2011.
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[quote=Kitdy;978483]The one issue. People come out of the woodwork to propose CotYs. Beyond the apparent issue of elitism in allowing only some to nominate cars, how do you determine who composes the nomination committee?[/quote]
Maybe anyone that posts nearly every day and has over 7500 posts?
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[quote=Ferrer;978487]Members that have posted the most often for the last 6 months?
I wanted to limit nominations precisely for the problem NSX mentions.
I'd also limit to production road cars introduced in 2011.[/quote]
How does one define production? An age old problem. Generally accepted to be produced in significant qualities or otherwise made by a reputable manufacturer, allowing say, a Zonda to still qualify?
[quote=Cobrafan427;978488]Maybe anyone that posts nearly every day and has over 7500 posts?[/quote]
So losers such as myself?
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[quote=Kitdy;978493]How does one define production? An age old problem. Generally accepted to be produced in significant qualities or otherwise made by a reputable manufacturer, allowing say, a Zonda to still qualify?[/quote]
Well, then anything that can be registered for the road? That would define it clearly.
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[quote=Ferrer;978512]Well, then anything that can be registered for the road? That would define it clearly.[/quote]
And an engine. And more than two wheels. :)
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[quote=Ferrer;978512]Well, then anything that can be registered for the road? That would define it clearly.[/quote]
Yeah, that sounds right. Road legal and introduced in 2011. Thinking North Americanly, would this exclude 2011 MY years cars and only allow 2012s?
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[quote=McReis;978516]And an engine. And more than two wheels. :)[/quote]
I thought those were a gibbon... ;)
[quote=Kitdy;978518]Yeah, that sounds right. Road legal and introduced in 2011. Thinking North Americanly, would this exclude 2011 MY years cars and only allow 2012s?[/quote]
Anything that has been introduced from the 1st of January to the last day of nominations, I'd say. And I'd forget about the whole MY malarkey. It just confuses things.
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Eh, cheat. Use the cars in EVO's PCOY and CAR's PCOY nominees and maybe take some nominations for sedans and SUVs. I somehow doubt the MPV faithful are going to feel slighted and rise up.
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evo is damn good. Read two when over in Scotland. Pretty acceptable choice this year, though it was very obvious.
I want a sub.
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[quote=Kitdy;978526].... over in Scotland. .... I want a sub.[/quote]
ok, a Scottish sub for you :)
[img]http://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/02/45/72/2457223_8468c98d.jpg[/img]
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My Dad worked there last year! Faslane!
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Is that a Scottish sub, or just a British sub in Scotland? [/nitpick]
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:) SOme would complain it's an English sub polluting Scottish waters :)
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So what is the consensus?
When do we get cracking with the nominations?
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[i]X[/i] posts in the last year? 100? 200?
EDIT: If I qualify, I would like to nominate the Boss 302 (Seca and standard) as my nominee.
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[quote=Ferrer;978622]1M Coupé for me.[/quote]
Pff, going for the Clarkson tack.
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[quote=Ferrer;978622]1M Coupé for me.[/quote]
UCP says it was press released on December 10, 2010. I can't find when they started production.
Seems fine though, it's just that shit could get complicated.
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Lamborghini Aventador. :end list:
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[quote=Sledgehammer;978625]Lamborghini Aventador. :end list:[/quote]
Yeah? I have heard universally positive reviews but there is always a caveat in them.
Certainly looks the part to be CotY though.
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[quote=Kitdy;978623]Pff, going for the Clarkson tack.[/quote]
[quote=Kitdy;978624]UCP says it was press released on December 10, 2010. I can't find when they started production.
Seems fine though, it's just that shit could get complicated.[/quote]
Dammit I'll need something else.
Maybe the new facelifted Twingo RS?
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TTRS....only because its so over the top for a chick car....
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[quote=Ferrer;978627]Dammit I'll need something else.
Maybe the new facelifted Twingo RS?[/quote]
Eh, it is a 2011 car basically. They probably started building it in 2011.
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Well I will stick with the Bimmer then.
But I just thought of something. Please, someone nominate the Toyobaru BRZGT 86.
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Is that eligible? Its not even on sale yet...
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[quote=Sledgehammer;978625]Lamborghini Aventador. :end list:[/quote]
Das ist gut.
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McLaren MP4-12C, or Porsche GT3 4.0...
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[quote=RacingManiac;978639]Is that eligible? Its not even on sale yet...[/quote]
Heh. What exactly is eligible?
It has been tested. Is it being made?
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I don't think that ride & drive can be counted as "tested". IMO the car has to be on sale for a production car otherwise it makes no sense.....
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[quote=RacingManiac;978649]I don't think that ride & drive can be counted as "tested". IMO the car has to be on sale for a production car otherwise it makes no sense.....[/quote]
Yeah, my bad.
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Nominations so far:
-Ford Mustang Boss 302
-BMW 1M Coupé
-Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4
-Audi TT-RS
-McLaren MP4-12C
-Porsche 911 GT3RS 4.0
If no one objects to it, voting thread will be up by monday.
Also, seeing the low noumber of nomiantions, maybe we should allow for more than one nominee per member...?
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I think the Morgan 3-Wheeler and BMW M5 should be added
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McLaren has already been mentioned :)
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[quote=Ferrer;978814]Nominations so far:
-Ford Mustang Boss 302
-BMW 1M Coupé
-Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4
-Audi TT-RS
-McLaren MP4-12C
-Porsche 911 GT3RS 4.0
If no one objects to it, voting thread will be up by monday.
Also, seeing the low noumber of nomiantions, maybe we should allow for more than one nominee per member...?[/quote]
That looks a pretty go list. Go ahead and make the thread, the BMW 1M gets my vote.
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No Subaru BRZ or FT-86?
Or are they too new?
Just because the heart of the Subieyota is a flat 4, I consider it more a Subaru product than a Toyota product.
Not that any of the listed nominations are bad, they just seem so unobtainable, price wise.
The cheapest car there is the Boss, at around $40,000 is still almost twice the price of the BRZ.