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Torque is fabulous and makes cars more fun to drive.
pretty crappy movie
Tork?
I might need to add a picture to further prove my point:
[IMG]http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l83/git19r87done/funny/torque.jpg[/IMG]
TORQUE WINS
In a game called vdrift I made a nisann r34 gtr with about 20000lfbt of torque form 4k-9k revs. I reduced the drag coeffecient to 0.001 and it easy passes 300 mph.
Win.
EDIT: the game crashes when i reach 350
but as quoted above, it still cant do "this"
Ferrari wins.
Discuss that.
I quote my sig.
*edit* even my car has more torque than hp. 274hp to 280 torque. Win
No. I win. **** you all.
[QUOTE=NicFromLA;833187]Ferrari wins.
Discuss that.[/QUOTE]
I have Scuderia Ferrari tattooed on my heart. I approve.
But yeah it kinda goes against the torque statement. Not entirely though.
[QUOTE=2ndclasscitizen;833189]No. I win. **** you all.[/QUOTE]
Haha just for this you do, actually :p
[QUOTE=NicFromLA;833187]Ferrari wins.
Discuss that.[/QUOTE]
Except when Ford really wants to beat them.
EDIT: Or Porsche.
EDIT 2: Or in the F1 WDC, anybody from 1979-2000.
Mclaren got no constructor points last year and they were driving a ferrari
[QUOTE=Sledgehammer;833188]I quote my sig.
*edit* even my car has more torque than hp. 274hp to 280 torque. Win[/QUOTE]
What unit are you measuring your torque in? To be pedantic there's no such thing as more torque than power.. or vice-versa.. they're measured using totally different units and they're two different concepts.
Torque obviously wins though...
Pound-foot.
Although the SI reckon it should be measured in Newton-metres.
[QUOTE=fisetdavid26;833205]Pound-foot.
Although the SI reckon it should be measured in Newton-metres.[/QUOTE]
Can you rectify that statement? I am offended.:mad: You have obviously no clue of what you just said. As a moderator you are on this site to prevent such stupidities, not to produce them.
and diesel=torque, wins.
[QUOTE=henk4;833209]Can you rectify that statement? I am offended.:mad: You have obviously no clue of what you just said. As a moderator you are on this site to prevent such stupidities, not to produce them.
and diesel=torque, wins.[/QUOTE]
As for the first part, it was a joke, I thought you were joking for a minute but I guess not.
And as for the second, is diesel's specific torque greater on average than gasoline if one considers naturally aspirated engines only? An interesting question... then again, I don't think people that buy diesels are often motivated by how they perform, rather, how cost effective they are.
[QUOTE=fisetdavid26;833205]Pound-foot.
Although the SI reckon it should be measured in Newton-metres.[/QUOTE]
KW and NM ftw. backwards imperial should have died with the british empire :D
power for most circuit racing. torque for hillclimbs and towing caravans...
[QUOTE=henk4;833209]Can you rectify that statement? I am offended.:mad: You have obviously no clue of what you just said. As a moderator you are on this site to prevent such stupidities, not to produce them.
and diesel=torque, wins.[/QUOTE]
You shouldn't be offended Pieter. I was watching Top Gear and saw Clarkson do the Hitler salute when talking about making a car quintessentially German, and I thought it was funny but indeed out of place, but that's kind of humour I like. So I plugged it in without actually noticing. There are no reasons for it. Sorry if I offended you.
For the record I love the SI units, and try to stick using them even though I grew up measuring my height in inches and my weight in pounds, but somehow using kilometers per hour for speed and centimeters for measuring anything else other than my height. A bit awkward I reckon. In fact, I'm feeling a bit sad the United States and the United Kingdom are still widely using Imperial units, can we just live in a world where every units are the same everywhere? That would make it so easier. For now I learned how to convert the Imperial units to the Metric ones, I guess it'll do...
It's not like I'm expecting the Americans to get out of their bubble anytime soon and live in 2008 though.
God I love to be controversial. Mea culpa.
lol, i'm getting pretty good at converting HP to KW and pounds to KG on the fly..but torque is harder lol
[QUOTE=Kitdy;833211]As for the first part, it was a joke, I thought you were joking for a minute but I guess not.
And as for the second, is diesel's specific torque greater on average than gasoline if one considers naturally aspirated engines only? An interesting question... then again, I don't think people that buy diesels are often motivated by how they perform, rather, how cost effective they are.[/QUOTE]
Probably under our current local circumstances diesel is a bit more expensive to drive here, but I do love the torque that comes with it. And more torque is on the way pretty soon.
[QUOTE=fisetdavid26;833213]You shouldn't be offended Pieter. I was watching Top Gear and saw Clarkson do the Hitler salute when talking about making a car quintessentially German, and I thought it was funny but indeed out of place, but that's kind of humour I like. So I plugged it in without actually noticing. There are no reasons for it. Sorry if I offended you.
[/QUOTE]
If you had said SI Police nobody would have noted. And Clarkson is not the greatest example of good taste to go by.
But accepted.;)
Even in America, anyone who's ever taken a science class has at least some knowledge of SI. I don't consider myslef an expert but i know 60cubes/L, .6km/mile
3/4kW per hp etc.
SI is infuriurating because it makes so much goddamn sense, but I still cannot think in it.
EDIT:
[QUOTE=henk4]Can you rectify that statement? I am offended. You have obviously no clue of what you just said. As a moderator you are on this site to prevent such stupidities, not to produce them.[/QUOTE]
Is this a special continental European touchiness about the subject, I dont mean to offend, but do Nazi references just hit closer to home?
For the record i cannot convert nm to lbft
[QUOTE=f6fhellcat13;833220]
SI is infuriurating because it makes so much goddamn sense, but I still cannot think in it.[/QUOTE]
Probably you need the SI police to teach you a lesson;)
Unfortunately in Canada we use some Imperial as well, height is in feet and inches, weight in pounds, and car stats in hp and lb.-ft.
[QUOTE=henk4;833221]Probably you need the SI police to teach you a lesson;)[/QUOTE]
Maybe :)
but I agree with David, NM are evil :p
[QUOTE=Kitdy;833226]Unfortunately in Canada we use some Imperial as well, height is in feet and inches, weight in pounds, and car stats in hp and lb.-ft.[/QUOTE]
It's the influence of our big bad neighbour. ;)
[QUOTE=f6fhellcat13;833227]Maybe :)
but I agree with David, NM are evil :p[/QUOTE]
do you realise that NM gives a higher figure than pd/ft? It increases bragging potential....
[QUOTE=fisetdavid26;833228]It's the influence of our big bad neighbour. ;)[/QUOTE]
don't say anything wrong about the USA, some people here don't like that....
[QUOTE=henk4;833229]do you realise that they give a higher figure than pd/ft? It increases bragging potential....[/QUOTE]
Yes but there is one slight problem with all of that "I want to learn the SI units but can't translate them to Imperial ones on the fly living in a nation that mostly use Imperial units": you're not getting understood. "Man this car's engine develops 335 kW and 650 Nm of torque!"
Then they just look at you like if you had two heads and you came from outer space wearing a giant canary suit with help swimmers on your arms.
[QUOTE=henk4;833230]don't say anything wrong about the USA, some people here don't like that....[/QUOTE]
Somehow the opposite situation of the one we are dealing with right now feels strangely familiar... ;)
Have we switched roles recently? :p
[QUOTE=fisetdavid26;833231] leaving in a nation[/QUOTE]
are you planning on going elsewhere?
[QUOTE=fisetdavid26;833231]
Somehow the opposite situation of the one we are dealing with right now feels strangely familiar... ;)
Have we switched roles recently? :p[/QUOTE]
have you not noticed how restrained I have been lately? (only when I have to look at pulp in another thread, the old me comes out again;))
[QUOTE=henk4;833234]have you not noticed how restrained I have been lately? (only when I have to look at pulp in another thread, the old me comes out again;))[/QUOTE]
I noticed you didn't post as much as usual, mostly only posting in the photo-related threads... posts that I'm pleased to ignore seeing as you're only bashing the use of Photoshop and whatnot ;)
[QUOTE=henk4;833233]are you planning on going elsewhere?[/QUOTE]
Thanks for quoting something I edited right after I posted and missing the point of my post :)
[QUOTE=fisetdavid26;833231]Yes but there is one slight problem with all of that "I want to learn the SI units but can't translate them to Imperial ones on the fly living in a nation that mostly use Imperial units": you're not getting understood. "Man this car's engine develops 335 kW and 650 Nm of torque!"
Then they just look at you like if you had two heads and you came from outer space wearing a giant canary suit with help swimmers on your arms.
[/QUOTE]
I have always been acustomed to torque in lbft and power in hp being about the same in engines of moderateish tune. There is something very inherently pleasing about a Corvette's engine making ~400hp and ~400lbft, I don't kno what it is. and any car that has 400 kw and 400 nm actually has, in my head, an utterly unbalanced 535hp and 300lbft. :p
I had one of those suits as a kid, wore it out tho.
I had to look this up :o but apparently .75nm/lbft
[QUOTE=f6fhellcat13;833238]I have always been acustomed to torque in lbft and power in hp being about the same in engines of moderateish tune. There is something very inherently pleasing about a Corvette's engine making ~400hp and ~400lbft, I don't kno what it is. and any car that has 400 kw and 400 nm actually has, in my head, an utterly unbalanced 535hp and 300lbft. :p
I had one of those suits as a kid, wore it out tho.
I had to look this up :o but apparently .75nm/lbft[/QUOTE]
Yeah I know what you mean with the whole hp/lb-ft thingy, Sledgehammer also proved that's our mentality really in NA. I do struggle not to use horsepower and pound-foot as car-related units, and I admit I find myself being like "woah it has more torque than hp!" sometimes.
I like a car with more torques than powers. This provides greatest accelerations and velocities.
[QUOTE=fisetdavid26;833236]I noticed you didn't post as much as usual, mostly only posting in the photo-related threads... posts that I'm pleased to ignore seeing as you're only bashing the use of Photoshop and whatnot ;)[/QUOTE]
the word "use" should be preceded by "excessive";) and btw, I made an announcement in this thread that nobody apparently has picked up yet....
[QUOTE=f6fhellcat13;833241]I like a car with more torques than powers. This provides greatest accelerations and velocities.[/QUOTE]
there is a thread on this forum about torque and power (have to look it up), our (ex) member Hightower had very pronounced views about the uselessness of torque as a means to express the performance potential of a car.