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Supra vs Skyline
Which Is Better In Stock?
1. 1993 Supra Turbo
2. 1999 R34 Skyline GT-R
Supra Skyline
HP 320 <---WIN!!! 276
Weight 1565 kg <---WIN!!! 1666kg
Displacement 2997cc <---WIN!!! 2568cc
0 - ¼ mile 13.5sec <---WIN!!! 13.7sec
0 - 60 mph 5sec <---WIN!!! 5.2sec
0 - 100 mph 11.8sec <---WIN!!! 13.0sec
Powertrain RWD WIN!!!---> 4Wd
Well Motly Supra Wins I Dont Know Why People Like Sky`s U Know.....!!!!! (n supra is 1993 whereas sky is 1999 +1 )
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people its a poll so take a choice ok.....!!
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Wrong forum dude.[U]American cars.[/U]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Prowl [/i]
[B]Wrong forum dude.[U]American cars.[/U] [/B][/QUOTE]
man i know but i already posted it goto asain post thts a wrong one too check it out it`s kool
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Supra dude, I like your outlook, and believe me, there is no bigger supra fan, from 2000 GT to JZ80 1997 model than me, but I'm not too sure about your figures.
The r34 gtr actually produces about 320 bhp compared to the supras 326. Since the GTR was only officially sold in Japan they must claim max power at 280 powerstroke or 276 bhp.
The skylines weight you claim is also not for the standard model. Actual (dry) standard weight is about 1540 kg.
1/4 mile times vary depending on who runs them, but in a straight shoot out I have seen the skyline (when launched VERY aggressively...serious clutch abuse) run a 13.02, to a supras 13.45.
Don't really know why you think a RWD is better than 4wd, that is why the GTR is actually faster than the supra (massive grip means high RPM clutch dumps).
Having said all that, I vote the Supra! It is more comfortable, just as modifyable and more drivable in city areas, as it has almost no turbo lag. But really you should have said the 1997 model. It featured a VVT inlet system, making it marginally faster than the earlier model.
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Personally I think they are both equally over-rated.
If I was forced to drive either I would take the skyline since it tends to snow in Canada.
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you are free to believe they are over rated, but they both perform very well for reasonable money, providing much better value than most aussie performance vehicles that we are stuck with.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Nildo [/i]
[B]you are free to believe they are over rated, but they both perform very well for reasonable money, providing much better value than most aussie performance vehicles that we are stuck with. [/B][/QUOTE]
I don't doubt or deni that. They are both capable machines. They are not the be all and end all of automotive performance as many people make them seem like.
I would take a 280 or 300Z, or corvette over either of those vehicles.
Skyline and Supra are just the playstation generations wet dream.
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Yeah, maybe that is true in the states. It certainly isn't where I am. I can tell you though that a 300 zx is definitely not as good as either for speed or comfort. It is very heavy and claustraphobic inside too.
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the r34 looks much better than the supra but the supra is lovely as well but the skyline is japanese QUEEN - the NSX is the KING
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yeah, nsx-r is a wet dream machine alright. but trust me, drive through a city with lots of traffic lights and you will appreciate the sequential turbo system on the supra.
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man u guys r goin out of the point the polls not for the nsx ok n listen thnx for the opinions.....!!!
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Supra-Devil [/i]
[B]man u guys r goin out of the point the polls not for the nsx ok n listen thnx for the opinions.....!!! [/B][/QUOTE] but its still a RIVAL!!!!!!
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and a good one too, 'Head! I love the nsx! any jap car that scares ferrari sounds good to me.
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I know this poll is about Supras and Skylines (in which the Skyline would be better) but youse are talking about NSX's how bout a WRX?
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In the states I would choose the Skyline, Supras are fairly common. Plus I think the Skylines look better (I really don't like the "sports/ exotic car look). But everything I am saying is hearsay since I have driven neither.
Can I pick a 1989 Turbo Trans Am? (The American in me)
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uhhhhh rwd is actualy more practical in general as it doent have the dead weight the awd system has requiring what is it like 3 diffs and 2 gear boxes around town its just a waste and even on the 1/4 mile it might take off faster but it levels out with the extra weight it has
supras are nice cars i know a bloke who has one its a nice car it handels great and he had a great dual down they clyde mountain with a pretty serous HR holden with a healthy 350 under the bonnet
and sylines here are soiled by the boy racer image here all of them you see are coverd in crappy stickers like they are going to forget the mods they done to it like the maditory K&N airfilter and sparco seats that dont match the interior and they usualy have shitty graphics along the side
and im glad this isnt like school where theres usualy a wog who will argue black and blue that an rx-7 is better
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the skyline may win in the quarter do to its attessa awd system and incredibelness... but, if we were to compare the engines the supra engien would win hands down... the supra engine is sooo incredible words cant describe it, although the skyline engine is close behind... supra WOOT!!!!!
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The Skyline!
Of course, the Supra is a very nice car. I think of it as sort of a japanese muscle car you know? Front engine rear drive, latest generation actually has more torque than horse due to restricted horse in Japan (at least the listed specs anyway).
But the Skyline! The sheer technology of it all....it's amazing. The four wheel drive with electronic torque split, super hicas four wheel steering, electronic limited slip too. It's awesome, and the engine of course has the potential to produce around 500hp comfortably with stock internals.
But the thing I would love most about it is that not many people in america would know what it is. If I had one I wouldn't touch the body at all. I would want it in black, with dark rims, either gunmetal or black. No body kit or any bs like that, just big turbos, and all the plumbing reaquired for them, bigger intercooler, sport exhaust, stiffer suspension with maybe a slight drop in ride height, big brakes, some nice rubber, oh and drive train mods too. Then I could sneak up on anyone!
Can you imagine rolling up next to somebody in a vette, or stang, or even a porsche or a Lancer. Just about anything! Then asking if they want to race, lol! They'd be like "What's that? Some kind of suped up maxima or something?". Then just crank it up to 6800rpm and watch the fireworks.
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Supra is better. Someone mentioned that they like any car that can scare a Ferrari, and they were referring to an NSX. Sorry dude, no NSX scares any Ferrari in production today!
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I think they both have good points like the skyline has power to burn but isnt the most agaile car around. whereas the supra may not have as much power but is more agile.
But besides that they are both great cars and if i had to choose i would say skyline cos of its looks.
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very true monstaman, it seems as if th esupra was made to chase the skyline around the track, but the skyline was made to chase the supra at the strip...either way there both incredible cars... but if were talkn engines 2jz has to be one of the most bulletproof engines ever made
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Re: Supra vs Skyline
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Supra-Devil [/i]
[B]Which Is Better In Stock?
1. 1993 Supra Turbo
2. 1999 R34 Skyline GT-R
Supra Skyline
HP 800MAX <---WIN!!! 1900MAX
Weight 1565 kg <---WIN!!! 1666kg
Displacement 2997cc <---WIN!!! 2568cc
0 - ¼ mile 13sec <---WIN!!! 13.7sec
0 - 60 mph 5.9sec <---WIN!!! 5.2sec
0 - 100 mph 11.8sec <---WIN!!! 11sec
Powertrain RWD WIN!!!---> 4Wd
Well Motly Supra Wins I Dont Know Why People Like Sky`s U Know.....!!!!! (n supra is 1993 whereas sky is 1999 +1 ) [/B][/QUOTE]
ur so DUMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JUST 276HP for a R34? wat da hell r u goin on about u FREAKIN LAIR. supras can b bout 800HP MAX...SKYLINE 1405HP MAX........u sound another one of those pathetic losers..........n if u install a good turbo in a skyline it'll go up to 1900HP......N I AINT KIDDIN OR LYING LIKE U DO!!!
the above i have changed are actually true facts!!!!!!!! a mate of mine who runs over 50 boyracing garages over nz has told me thats the best time done 4 supras in the ocenia...he used 2 have a supra dunno which year but was 612HP...at first he thought sky's were slow but once i convinced him 2 race n dat was it...the next day his supras were all sold and he started selling sky's n got his own 1...he tuned it up to 389kw on all 4 wheels and 1200HP......u shud try a skyline sum day
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how can you say that the cars can "only" make a certain amount of power. they both come stock with twin turbo engine which should be able to boost power tremedously or you could fit bigger turbos aftermarket. the whole idea about turbochargin is "the sky's the limit"
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by fpv_gtho [/i]
[B]how can you say that the cars can "only" make a certain amount of power. they both come stock with twin turbo engine which should be able to boost power tremedously or you could fit bigger turbos aftermarket. the whole idea about turbochargin is "the sky's the limit" [/B][/QUOTE]
hey lil baby...go home 2 mummy, ur just 14........n think u no heaps of stuffs bout cars......U PROBABLY DUNNO JACK SHIT!!! so wait till u grow older, have ur own car, be able to race it and then come and talk, dunno y they let lil kids like u in here
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im 15 u ****wit and i know more shit about cars than my dad and my 19 year old friend
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ok mr r34_296kw if u no so much about cars, the supra can only be tuned to 800hp... BULLSHIT....... HKS GT3037 x2 and Custom ground 272/292 degree camshafts on top of some other work would get a supra in to 1200hp easey, supras engines are way more capable than the rbd.... here in kansas we have 2 skyline owners both who have there cars in the shop ive talked to both of them they way more knowledgable than ur ass, they both admit that the supra engine is capable of way more power than the skyline engine, and it can hold the power..... yes the skyline engine is great... so is the car... but u my friend come in here talkn like u no shit puttin people down when u are probably just a 10 year old kid who has played to much gt3.....
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look you skyline toting **** wit i dont care what you think fpv does or doesnt know hes quite knowlagble id say he knows more about new cars then i do (the only thing i wont give him is racing and older cars) and he also is very open minded (somthing you arnt) and hes also more articulate with a keybord then you when you type it ****ing looks like a text message "n u think u no heaps about cars". And how do you rate your own standards? picking on someone becuse of their age? or resorting to very desperate offences to try and get some feeling of victory from someone who has proven you wrong at every turn?
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This is the first time I have to abuse anyone on this page, but r34, you are a straight-up dick head.
When it comes to modifying cars, there is, as fpv mentions, virtually no limit in terms of turbo size/potential power. In standard form, with no mods to the bottom end, the supra can take WAY more than the skyline GTR. All of toyotas best engines (also like the 1UZ-FE found in the 4 litre Soarer) have cross-webbed bottom ends, multi-bolt main caps and so on. In one clip I downloaded I saw a supra-totally stock except for intercooler, chip, exhaust and boost bleed valve on standard turbos. This car had around 650 bhp. Show me a standard skyline that can do that. I guarantee you can't.
Before you go around insulting people just because they are 'only' a certain age, or because they disagree with your opinions, check your facts, then think about how you can convince others you are right without being rude. Don't pick on FPV.....after all, 'he's only 15'.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by bonzaisushi [/i]
[B]ok mr r34_296kw if u no so much about cars, the supra can only be tuned to 800hp... BULLSHIT....... HKS GT3037 x2 and Custom ground 272/292 degree camshafts on top of some other work would get a supra in to 1200hp easey, supras engines are way more capable than the rbd.... here in kansas we have 2 skyline owners both who have there cars in the shop ive talked to both of them they way more knowledgable than ur ass, they both admit that the supra engine is capable of way more power than the skyline engine, and it can hold the power..... yes the skyline engine is great... so is the car... but u my friend come in here talkn like u no shit puttin people down when u are probably just a 10 year old kid who has played to much gt3..... [/B][/QUOTE] heth sala makachod...sala bhosri...eko cheej bhi nai janta aur baat karta hai...jao gaand marwao gaichod aur sara andachod
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couldnt have said it better my self nildo. R34 u need to be removed from the gene pool.... come back when u know ur stuff and u pull ur head outa ur ass
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Nildo [/i]
[B]This is the first time I have to abuse anyone on this page, but r34, you are a straight-up dick head.
When it comes to modifying cars, there is, as fpv mentions, virtually no limit in terms of turbo size/potential power. In standard form, with no mods to the bottom end, the supra can take WAY more than the skyline GTR. All of toyotas best engines (also like the 1UZ-FE found in the 4 litre Soarer) have cross-webbed bottom ends, multi-bolt main caps and so on. In one clip I downloaded I saw a supra-totally stock except for intercooler, chip, exhaust and boost bleed valve on standard turbos. This car had around 650 bhp. Show me a standard skyline that can do that. I guarantee you can't.
Before you go around insulting people just because they are 'only' a certain age, or because they disagree with your opinions, check your facts, then think about how you can convince others you are right without being rude. Don't pick on FPV.....after all, 'he's only 15'. [/B][/QUOTE]
well i do have 2 agree with u about toyota. it is a very good car. well the fact is that a supra is a good n fast car. the supra tt vs a r34 will be a good race. but supras just can do what a skyline can do... im pretty sure that just a plain old skyline is faster dan a plain old supra but...but can a supra beat a XR8??? can it beat a freakin mitsi gto????????????????? HELL NO!!! but the XR8 or a mitsi gto (not a pontiac gto) dont stand a chance against a r34... oh yeah sorry 4 being a bully 'dildo'
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lol it can walk all over mitsu gtos.... gtos weigh in just over 3000lbs supras weight in at around 2400, 600lb difference, supra has more TQ, so what if the GTO has awd awd is only good for a launch and in the turns, mitsu added awd just to get that beast of a car movin cuz it weighs so dang much.... in the 1/4 mile the skyline and the supra would be a close race, i think it would be all on the driver... but a GTO doesnt stand a chance with either
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by bonzaisushi [/i]
[B]lol it can walk all over mitsu gtos.... gtos weigh in just over 3000lbs supras weight in at around 2400, 600lb difference, supra has more TQ, so what if the GTO has awd awd is only good for a launch and in the turns, mitsu added awd just to get that beast of a car movin cuz it weighs so dang much.... in the 1/4 mile the skyline and the supra would be a close race, i think it would be all on the driver... but a GTO doesnt stand a chance with either [/B][/QUOTE] YES!!!!!!!!! I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!! I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!! i just wish someone like u could explain to my dumb n arrogant m8 dat GTO's are slow shit....he insists that a mitsi GTO is one of the fastest cars eva made by Japan...he says Skyline has only good brakes n dat Supras have only good looks...he says that GTO has excellent brakes, excellent looks and extremely fast speed...even if the smartest person on earth told him...he would just not believe it....I NEW A GTO IS LOW SHIT!!! compared to a skyline or supra...
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it is, there a comfort vehicle that has enough power to pass on the highway... my older brother had the US verson the 3000gt vr-4 and that thing was comfortable but no where near as fast as a supra or a skyline shoot even a evo, and there awd system is crap.. nissans awd system is a work of art.. attessa kicks ass
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by bonzaisushi [/i]
[B]it is, there a comfort vehicle that has enough power to pass on the highway... my older brother had the US verson the 3000gt vr-4 and that thing was comfortable but no where near as fast as a supra or a skyline shoot even a evo, and there awd system is crap.. nissans awd system is a work of art.. attessa kicks ass [/B][/QUOTE] hmmmmmm u r totally right.......my dad likes nice big and comfy cars......dats y i bought him a toyota windom....but if u let him loose behind the wheel of a ford V8...even supras have been beaten by him whenever hes in a V8...no wonder my mum get pissed at him when he tried to buy a ford falcon XR6
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why do u expect a $50,000 family sedan to compete with a sports coupe that could pissibly twice its price?
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I don't know how anybody driving a supra twin turbo would lose a drag to an XR8. The XR8 is a decent set of wheels, true, but it weighs in at well over 1700 kg, with only 260 kw. The toyota weighs about 1500 kg and boasts 240 kw, plus a more advanced driveline meaning less power loss to the wheels.
The corevitt timesheets I have read for the XR8 make it as a 14.4 second car with a terminal speed about 162 kph. I have seen official tests on a (1997) JZ80 supra running a 13.45@171. As far as the GTO is concerned, it is a very good launcher, but can't match the supra's in gear acceleration, nor it's top speed. In fact, neither can the XR8...or skyline GTR.
The supra and GTR are just made for different drivers, plain and simple.