Australian Grand Prix

[Matra et Alpine]

Originally Posted by 2ndclasscitizen

he was only allowed to go 90kmh, i think it was partially cause of the government, and BMWWilliams where also shooting an ad

yeah when they did the F1 in London one of the things they ghad to do was go round and weld done all the drain covers as the F1 car underbody woudl suck them up
Liekly they kept the speed down for similar reasons ????

[SlickHolden]

Originally Posted by lukehow

This thread is for info, scores, anything about the Australian Grand Prix. Personally I hope Mark Webber gets a good result being my favourite F1 driver.

Ohhh i thought you were only into the car

[Coventrysucks]

Of course the shadow is cast by Ferrari refusing to let Minardi race.

They can't really be threatened, so this just gives a good indicator of how petty and childish they are.

After all Stoddard's hardtalk against Ferrari they could have risen above it and proven that they care about the sport by allowing them to race. But Todt has said 'you bad talked about us for 3 months so we're not signing'.

A really professional outfit aren't they?

Red Bull seem to have joined them. I wonder who they want an engine from next year?

I'd be interested to know what Stoddard means when he says that if they are barred from racing they won't be the only ones not racing...

[r1ckst4]

well that was an interesting race.... all the top teams last year didnt do as good as people would expect them to

i really didnt expect giancarlo to lead the race from start to end and ended up with 10 or so second lead from rubens! it looks like the the renault cars really did the job good... i'm pretty dissapointed with webber he stuffed up the start, and how the hell did he end up in 5th??? i watched the whole race! but i guess 5th isnt so bad...

Michael was pretty selfish i reckon... he shouldve let nick go... that bastard!

overall... pretty good race, not a bad start for 2005! it will be pretty interesting to see how the engines will cope in Sepang, Malaysia.

[RacingManiac]

Originally Posted by Coventrysucks

Of course the shadow is cast by Ferrari refusing to let Minardi race.

They can't really be threatened, so this just gives a good indicator of how petty and childish they are.

After all Stoddard's hardtalk against Ferrari they could have risen above it and proven that they care about the sport by allowing them to race. But Todt has said 'you bad talked about us for 3 months so we're not signing'.

A really professional outfit aren't they?

Red Bull seem to have joined them. I wonder who they want an engine from next year?

I'd be interested to know what Stoddard means when he says that if they are barred from racing they won't be the only ones not racing...

Just as professional as the Minardi trying to make a fool of themselves by claiming they don't have the 2005-spec car ready when they do.....

[IBrake4Rainbows]

Hey, many manufacturers use last years car while there making the new one better. Minardi does not have the budget of the bigger teams, they can't be expected to pop out a brand new car every year. Hell, even Mclaren used 2003 cars in 2004.

[fpv_gtho]

Originally Posted by r1ckst4

i'm pretty dissapointed with webber he stuffed up the start, and how the hell did he end up in 5th??? i watched the whole race! but i guess 5th isnt so bad...

Theres just no satisfying you is there. Firstly, Webber didnt botch the start, Coulthard just made a high risk move and Webber wasnt about to end either of their races on the first corner. The only thing im surprised is where Alonso and Barichello came from after Trulli dropped from the front, those 2 really flew in under the radar for me

[2ndclasscitizen]

go HRT, taking out two of the 3 V8 races! let's go red army!

[lukeh]

I think its a good posistion for mark webber to be in for the first race he is in front of some of the best drivers thats a plus. but its good to see somebody except michael shumacher win.

[fpv_gtho]

Originally Posted by 2ndclasscitizen

go HRT, taking out two of the 3 V8 races! let's go red army!

When you think about it though, Ambrose's 2nd-4th-2nd put him equal with Skaife's 4th-3rd-1st for the weekend

[r1ckst4]

Originally Posted by fpv_gtho

Theres just no satisfying you is there.

no not really... Webber should know that he's Williams' top driver now, BMW Williams isnt a toyota or a minardi... this team is BIG, there are a lot of fans out there who expect the team to have a podium finish in the start of the year. He's the top driver of the team he should take more risks, if her was being careful all the time and afraid of taking chances he will end up making 4 points or less in every GP... come to think of it, MS was taking a risk there but it was unsuccesfull, and then u see Jenson's take off in the start of the race in most of 2004 GPs they were risky... but he did it anyway.

All i'm saying is that Webber needs to wake up and realise that his team and fans want him to start winning as much as he does too...take the risk!... not all the time of course coz that would be stupid.

[fpv_gtho]

Originally Posted by r1ckst4

Webber should know that he's Williams' top driver now

He knows alright, its a bit hard to escape......

BMW Williams isnt a toyota or a minardi... this team is BIG, there are a lot of fans out there who expect the team to have a podium finish in the start of the year.

Williams are big, but right now theyre not fast. Where were you the other week when they said they only expect to be getting around 7-9th?

He's the top driver of the team he should take more risks, if her was being careful all the time and afraid of taking chances he will end up making 4 points or less in every GP... come to think of it, MS was taking a risk there but it was unsuccesfull, and then u see Jenson's take off in the start of the race in most of 2004 GPs they were risky... but he did it anyway.

Being the top driver he also needs to be responsible and be careful. Anyone could go out and dive straight into the first corner of every GP, but only 9/10 of those people would make it through cleanly, and alot would have a fair bit of damage. What good is saving 1 position if it means an unscheduled pitstop? Theres the bigger picture to all of this and its not worth it risking everything on the first corner

[fa22_raptor]

I went to the race AND MY DAD GOT ME SURPRISE TICKETS FOR THE PIT-WALK!!! The pit-walk was the definite highlight for me and I took heaps of pics. I'll upload them when I have time.

[Coventrysucks]

Originally Posted by RacingManiac

Just as professional as the Minardi trying to make a fool of themselves by claiming they don't have the 2005-spec car ready when they do.....

The situation unfurlaed slightly more after I posted, however that doesn't change the fact that 2005 parts completely untested does not equal a "2005 spec car" and it also meant that the Minardis were super-slow and almost caused DC to crash twice because of the discrepancy in relative speed.

As for MS. That man is a disgrace to the sport.
With Heidfeld steaming down the outside he definately and deliberately moved over. With no-where to go Heidfeld could either hit the back of Schumacher or take to the grass. Unfortunately grass isn't a good surface to brake on - the contact was inevitable, and instigated by someone who should quite frankly know better.

Then he sat there in one of the most dangerous parts of the track, beckoning the marshals like they are his lapdogs - putting their lives at risk to get him back into the race, which he then immediately drops out of due to damage.

There was no need to endanger the marshals if there was a high probablility of damage to the car - maybe if he'd just spun by himself, or had been in a much less dangerous position.

Wasn't Schumacher one of the loudest voices calling out for more safety after those marshals were killed a few seasons ago? And now he goes out of his way to endanger them? Incredible.

[Matra et Alpine]

Originally Posted by Coventrysucks

Then he sat there in one of the most dangerous parts of the track, beckoning the marshals like they are his lapdogs - putting their lives at risk to get him back into the race, which he then immediately drops out of due to damage.

EVERY F1 driver I ahve ever watched has ALWAYS beckoned to the marshalls to push him back on.

I think the hate for MS is colouring the analysis of the situation.

True, bad driver call by MS causing the incident. Senna woudl have taken the guys nose off in similar !!!!!