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But it looks like the big boys - Aston Racing - are taking advantage of a regulation intended to aid small teams
The regulations are not intended to aid the small teams. They are intended to level the playingfield despite the wide variety of engine types and sizes present. If it wasn't for restrictors and weight 'penalties' the tight battle between the Corvettes and DBR9s at Le Mans would not have been possible.
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ACO rules don't play with weight though AFAIK, recently they started playing with rear wing sizes as well to equalize greenhouse size and its effect.....
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ACO rules don't play with weight though AFAIK, recently they started playing with rear wing sizes as well to equalize greenhouse size and its effect.....
Yeah I am not sure about the weight either.
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Old 03-15-2006, 12:50 PM
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The regulations are not intended to aid the small teams.
The comment for small temas was because I woudl expect large teams to design and eingeer a solution srather than "plan" to take advantage of regulations
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They are intended to level the playingfield despite the wide variety of engine types and sizes present. If it wasn't for restrictors and weight 'penalties' the tight battle between the Corvettes and DBR9s at Le Mans would not have been possible.
But that was a FALSE BATTLE>
Both teams were running all their cars below their peak perrformance to avoid penalties in the equivalancy formulas for this year. The fans in the stands weren't impressed !!

Equivalency destroys motorsport (IMHO).
Different classes is a better way of being "fairer" to smaller cars, turbo'ed cars, AWD cars etc etc. ( like in rallying )
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1 2 LMP1 Audi Sport North America
Allan McNish Tom Kristensen Rinaldo Capello
Audi R10 1.47.791
2 6 LMP2 Penske Motorsports
Sascha Maassen Lucas Luhr Emmanuel Collard Porsche
RS Spyder 1.48.654
3 1 LMP1 Audi Sport North America
Marco Werner Frank Biela Emanuele Pirro
Audi R10 1.49.210
4 16 LMP1 Dyson Racing Team
James Weaver Butch Leitzinger Andy Wallace
Lola B06/10 AER 1.49.530
5 7 LMP2 Penske Motorsports
Timo Bernhard Romain Dumas Patrick Long
Porsche RS Spyder 1.49.599
6 20 LMP1 Dyson Racing Team
Chris Dyson Guy Smith
Lola B06/10 AER 1.49.692
7 37 LMP2 Intersport Racing
Clint Field Jon Field Liz Halliday
Lola B05/40 AER 1.50.350
8 12 LMP1 Autocon Motorsports
Michael Lewis Chris McMurry Bryan Willman
Lola B01/60 AER 1.52.469
9 10 LMP2 Miracle Motorsports
Andy Lally James Gue Andrew Davies
Courage C65 AER 1.52.941
10 41 LMP2 Binnie Motorsports
Bill Binnie Allen Timpany Rick Sutherland
Lola B05/40 Zytek 1.54.375
11 8 LMP2 B-K Motorsports
James Bach Guy Cosmo Raphael Matos
Courage C65 Mazda 1.55.573
12 4 GT1 Corvette Racing
Oliver Gavin Olivier Beretta Jan Magnussen
Corvette C6.R 1.55.782
13 33 LMP2 Barazi Epsilon
Juan Barazi Michael Vergers Elton Julian
Courage C65 AER 1.56.148
14 007 GT1 Aston Martin Racing
Tomas Enge Nicolas Kiesa Darren Turner
Aston Martin DBR9 1.56.509
15 3 GT1 Corvette Racing
Ron Fellows Johnny O'Connell Max Papis
Corvette C6.R 1.56.590
16 009 GT1 Aston Martin Racing
Jason Bright Pedro Lamy Stephane Sarrazin
Aston Martin DBR9 1.57.845
17 25 GT1 Konrad Motorsport
Tom Weickardt Terry Borcheller
Saleen S7R 2.02.807
18 62 GT2 Risi Competizione
Ralf Kelleners Anthony Lazzaro Jaime Melo
Ferrari 430 GTC 2.02.808
19 51 GT2 Multimatic Motorsports Team Panoz
Gunnar Jeannette Tom Milner Bruno Junqueira
Panoz Esperante GTLM 2.03.452
20 23 GT2 Alex Job Racing
Mike Rockenfeller Klaus Graf Graham Rahal
Porsche 911 GT3-RSR 2.03.689
21 26 GT1 Konrad Motorsport
Paolo Ruberti Jamie Davies Fabio Babini
Saleen S7R 2.03.811
22 21 GT2 BMW Team PTG
Bill Auberlen Joey Hand Ian James
BMW E46 M3 2.04.078
23 31 GT2 Petersen / White Lightning
Jorg Bergmeister Tim Bergmeister Nic Jonsson
Porsche 911 GT3-RSR 2.04.083
24 50 GT2 Multimatic Motorsports Team Panoz
Scott Maxwell David Brabham Sebastien Bourdais
Panoz Esperante GTLM 2.04.132
25 45 GT2 Flying Lizard Motorsports
Johannes van Overbeek Jon Fogarty Marc Lieb
Porsche 911 GT3-RSR 2.04.558
26 78 GT2 J3 Racing
Jep Thornton Mark Patterson Spencer Pumpelly
Porsche 911 GT3-RS 2.04.812
27 44 GT2 Flying Lizard Motorsports
Lonnie Pechnik Seth Neiman Darren Law
Porsche 911 GT3-RSR 2.05.476
28 85 GT2 Spyker Squadron
Peter Kox Donny Crevels
Spyker C8 Spyder 2.05.688
29 22 GT2 BMW Team PTG
Justin Marks Bryan Sellers Martin Jensen
BMW E46 M3 2.06.052
30 80 GT2 Team LNT
Lawrence Tomlinson Richard Dean Tom Kimber-Smith
Panoz Esperante GTLM 2.06.140
31 55 GT2 Farnbacher Loles Racing
Pierre Ehret Lars Erik Nielsen Dominic Farnbacher
Porsche 911 GT3-RSR 2.06.709
32 86 GT2 Spyker Squadron
Mike Hezemans Jeroen Bleekemolen
Spyker C8 Spyder 2.07.337
33 56 GT2 Vonka Racing
Jan Vonka Mauro Casadei Bo McCormick
Porsche 911 GT3-RS 2.33.839
34 9 LMP1 Highcroft Racing
Duncan Dayton Rick Knoop Gregor Fisken
Lola B01/60 AER no time
35 79 GT2 J3 Racing
Tim Sugden Wolf Henzler Jim Matthews
Porsche 911 GT3-RSR no time
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Old 03-15-2006, 12:58 PM
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That Porsche RS Spyder is flying.....
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Tom Kristensen is at home in the R10
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Isn't the top Saleen the ACEMCO Motorsports S7R?
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Dyson Racing picked up the pace as its two Lola B06/10-AERs posted the second- and fourth-fastest times during a one-hour practice session Wednesday afternoon for the Mobil 1 Twelve Hours of Sebring and the opening of the 2006 American Le Mans Series. Audi Sport North America held the top spot again, however, as its diesel-powered R10 TDI prototype was the quickest of all 30 cars that took part in the session.

Frank Biela posted a fast lap of 1:48.598 in the No. 1 Audi R10 TDI, the fifth straight session that one of the new Audis has turned the best time. A half-second back was Dyson Racing's No. 16 Lola, driven by James Weaver. It was the best showing of the week for the Dyson team, which also is debuting its new LMP1s.

For the first time this week, Intersport Racing posted the quickest time among LMP2 entries. The team's Lola B05/40-AER, with Clint Field at the wheel, toured the 17-turn track in 1:49.732, besting Penske Racing's No. 7 Porsche RS Spyder by 1.5 seconds.

Corvette Racing's two Corvette C6.Rs were 1-2 in GT1, with the No. 3 car of Max Papis leading the way with a 1:56.636. Papis was 0.127 seconds better than the No. 4 car, and less than a second better than Aston Martin Racing's two DBR9s.

In GT2, Multimatic Motorsports Team Panoz' No. 50 Panoz Esperante GTLM set the fast time of the day. Champ Car star Sebastien Bourdais piloted the Panoz to a 2:03.299 lap, less than a half second ahead of the team's No. 51 car. The No. 62 Risi Competizione Ferrari 430 GT was third at 2:04.166.

The American Le Mans Series begins its 2006 season with the 54th Mobil 1 Twelve Hours of Sebring. The 12-hour endurance classic is scheduled for 10:30 a.m. EST on Saturday at Sebring International Raceway. It will be televised live on SPEED Channel in North America and MotorsTV in Europe. In addition, Greenlight-Television will distribute the race worldwide to more than 510 million households. American Le Mans Radio will have flag-to-flag coverage available at www.americanlemans.com, along with IMSA Live Timing & Scoring.

Dyson Racing picked up the pace as its two Lola B06/10-AERs posted the second- and fourth-fastest times during a one-hour practice session Wednesday afternoon for the Mobil 1 Twelve Hours of Sebring and the opening of the 2006 American Le Mans Series. Audi Sport North America held the top spot again, however, as its diesel-powered R10 TDI prototype was the quickest of all 30 cars that took part in the session.

Dyson Racing picked up the pace as its two Lola B06/10-AERs posted the second- and fourth-fastest times during a one-hour practice session Wednesday afternoon for the Mobil 1 Twelve Hours of Sebring and the opening of the 2006 American Le Mans Series. Audi Sport North America held the top spot again, however, as its diesel-powered R10 TDI prototype was the quickest of all 30 cars that took part in the session.

Frank Biela posted a fast lap of 1:48.598 in the No. 1 Audi R10 TDI, the fifth straight session that one of the new Audis has turned the best time. A half-second back was Dyson Racing's No. 16 Lola, driven by James Weaver. It was the best showing of the week for the Dyson team, which also is debuting its new LMP1s.

For the first time this week, Intersport Racing posted the quickest time among LMP2 entries. The team's Lola B05/40-AER, with Clint Field at the wheel, toured the 17-turn track in 1:49.732, besting Penske Racing's No. 7 Porsche RS Spyder by 1.5 seconds.

Corvette Racing's two Corvette C6.Rs were 1-2 in GT1, with the No. 3 car of Max Papis leading the way with a 1:56.636. Papis was 0.127 seconds better than the No. 4 car, and less than a second better than Aston Martin Racing's two DBR9s.

In GT2, Multimatic Motorsports Team Panoz' No. 50 Panoz Esperante GTLM set the fast time of the day. Champ Car star Sebastien Bourdais piloted the Panoz to a 2:03.299 lap, less than a half second ahead of the team's No. 51 car. The No. 62 Risi Competizione Ferrari 430 GT was third at 2:04.166.

The American Le Mans Series begins its 2006 season with the 54th Mobil 1 Twelve Hours of Sebring. The 12-hour endurance classic is scheduled for 10:30 a.m. EST on Saturday at Sebring International Raceway. It will be televised live on SPEED Channel in North America and MotorsTV in Europe. In addition, Greenlight-Television will distribute the race worldwide to more than 510 million households. American Le Mans Radio will have flag-to-flag coverage available at www.americanlemans.com, along with IMSA Live Timing & Scoring.
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Wednesday afternoon's results

1 (1) No. 1 LMP1, Biela/Pirro/Werner, 1:48.598 (122.654 mph), 19 laps, Audi R10/TDI Power.
2 (2) No. 16 LMP1, Weaver/Leitzinger/Wallace, 1:49.117 (122.071 mph), +0.519, 20 laps, Lola B06/10/AER
3 (3) No. 2 LMP1, Capello/Kristensen/McNish, 1:49.153 (122.031 mph), +0.555, 20 laps, Audi R10/TDI Power.
4 (4) No. 20 LMP1, Dyson/G.Smith, 1:49.415 (121.738 mph), +0.817, 14 laps, Lola B06/10/AER.
5 (1) No. 37 LMP2, C.Field/Halliday/J.Field, 1:49.732 (121.387 mph), +1.134, 20 laps, Lola B05 40/AER.
6 (2) No. 7 LMP2, Bernhard/Dumas/Long, 1:51.293 (119.684 mph), +2.695, 11 laps, Porsche RS Spyder.
7 (5) No. 9 LMP1, Dayton/Knoop/Fisken, 1:51.974 (118.956 mph), +3.376, 12 laps, Lola EX257/AER.
8 (3) No. 33 LMP2, Barazi/Vergers/Julian, 1:53.865 (116.981 mph), +5.267, 18 laps, Courage C65/AER.
9 (4) No. 41 LMP2, Binnie/Timpany/Sutherland, 1:56.306 (114.525 mph), +7.708, 15 laps, Lola B05 40/Zytek.
10 (1) No. 3 LMGT1, Fellows/O'Connell/Papis, 1:56.636 (114.201 mph), +8.038, 17 laps, Corvette C6.R.
11 (2) No. 4 LMGT1, Gavin/Beretta/Magnussen, 1:56.853 (113.989 mph), +8.255, 19 laps, Corvette C6.R.
12 (3) No. 007 LMGT1, Enge/Kiesa/Turner, 1:57.300 (113.555 mph), +8.702, 21 laps, Aston Martin DBR9.
13 (4) No. 009 LMGT1, Bright/Lamy/Sarrazin, 1:57.513 (113.349 mph), +8.915, 22 laps, Aston Martin DBR9.
14 (5) No. 8 LMP2, Bach/Cosmo/Matos, 1:58.282 (112.612 mph), +9.684, 18 laps, Courage C65/Mazda.
15 (5) No. 26 LMGT1, Ruberti/Babini/J.Davies, 2:03.092 (108.212 mph), +14.494, 12 laps, Saleen S7R.
16 (1) No. 50 LMGT2, Maxwell/Brabham/Bourdais, 2:03.299 (108.030 mph), +14.701, 15 laps, Panoz Esperante GTLM/Ford.
17 (2) No. 51 LMGT2, Jeannette/Milner/Janqueira, 2:03.706 (107.675), +15.108, 17 laps, Panoz Esperante GTLM/Ford.
18 (3) No. 62 LMGT2, Kelleners/Melo/Lazzaro, 2:04.166 (107.276 mph), +15.568, 17 laps, Ferrari 430 GT Berllinetta.
19 (6) No. 25 LMGT1, Weickardt/ Borcheller/TBA, 2:04.200 (107.246 mph), +15.602, 12 laps, Saleen S7R.
20 (4) No. 21 LMGT2, Auberlen/Hand/James, 2:04.635 (106.872 mph), +16.037, 17 laps, BMW E46 M3.
21 (5) No. 45 LMGT2, van Overbeek/Fogarty/Lieb, 2:05.434 (106.191 mph), +16.836, 21 laps, Porsche 911 GT3 RSR.
22 (6) No. 86 LMGT2, Bleekemolen/Hezemans, 2:05.755 (105.920 mph), +17.157, 16 laps, Spyker C8 Spyder/Audi.
23 (7) No. 22 LMGT2, Marks/Sellers/Jensen, 2:06.216 (105.533 mph), +17.618, 18 laps, BMW E46 M3.
24 (8) No. 23 LMGT2, Rockenfeller/Graf/Rahal, 2:06.303 (105.461 mph), +17.705, 5 laps, Porsche 911 GT3 RSR.
25 (9) No. 85 LMGT2, Kox/Crevels, 2:06.539 (105.264 mph), +17.941, 14 laps, Spyker C8 Spyder/Audi.
26 (10) No. 31 LMGT2, J.Bergmeister/T.Bergmeister/Jonsson, 2:06.713 (105.119 mph), +18.115, 17 laps, Porsche 911 GT3 RSR.
27 (11) No. 55 LMGT2, Ehret/Nielsen/Farnbacher, 2:07.824 (104.206 mph), +19.226,18 laps, Porsche 911 GT3 RSR.
28 (12) No. 78 LMGT2, Pumpelly/Thornton/Patterson, 2:09.318 (103.002 mph), +20.720 19 Porsche 911 GT3 RSR.
29 (13) No. 56 LMGT2, Vonka/Casadei/McCormick, 2:19.743 (95.318 mph), +31.145, 16 laps, Porsche 911 GT3 RS.
30 (6) No. 12 LMP1, Lewis/McMurry/Willman, 4:38.786 (47.779 mph), +2:50.188 5 laps, Lola EX257/AER.


31 (6) No. 6 LMP2, Maassen/Luhr/Collard, no time, Porsche RS Spyder.
32 (7) No. 10 LMP2, Lally/Gue/A.Davis, no time, Courage C65/AER.
33 (14) No. 44 LMGT2, Law/Neiman/Pechnik, no time, Porsche 911 GT3 RSR.
34 (15) No. 79 LMGT2, Sugden/Matthews/Henzler, no time, Porsche 911 GT3 RSR.
35 (16) No. 80 LMGT2, Tomlinson/Dean/Kimber-Smith, Panoz Esperante GTLM.

Fastest Drivers

P1: Frank Biela
P2: Clint Field
GT1: Max Papis
GT2: Sebastien Bourdais
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Pirelli + DBR9 = kick Corvette Racing's ass
Pirelli's seem to go really well with V12 engined cars
Michelin+C6-R=American domination
The Corvettes won most of last year's races and have been on or at the top despite the weight and restrictor penalties.
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ACO rules don't play with weight though AFAIK, recently they started playing with rear wing sizes as well to equalize greenhouse size and its effect.....
They've played with weight before. They added a weight penalty to all the Audi R8's last year and to the Rollcentre Dallara's
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Thats more of a old car new car thing.....and that I think needs to be done as you really don't want to have people keep on running the older cars...
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Since the Pirelli's take longer than the Michelin's to warm up and the Astons get better fuel economy than the Corvettes, the Astons can keep out of the pits longer
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54th Annual Mobil 1 Twelve Hours of Sebring

Sebring International Raceway / 3.7 miles

March 13-14, 2006 / Sebring, Florida

Practice 3

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Pos Pos No. Class Drivers Time Speed

1 1 2 LMP1 Capello/ Kristensen/McNish 1:48.016 123.31

2 1 6 LMP2 Maassen/ Luhr/Collard 1:49.170 122.01

3 2 7 LMP2 Bernhard/ Dumas/Long 1:49.419 121.73

4 2 1 LMP1 Biela/ Pirro/Werner 1:49.511 121.63

5 3 20 LMP1 Dyson/ G.Smith 1:50.994 120.00

6 3 37 LMP2 C.Field/ Halliday/J.Field 1:51.720 119.22

7 4 33 LMP2 Barazi/ Vergers/Julian 1:52.921 117.95

8 5 41 LMP2 Binnie/ Timpany/Sutherland 1:53.210 117.65

9 6 10 LMP2 Lally/ Gue/A.Davis 1:53.299 117.56

10 4 9 LMP1 Dayton/ Knoop/Fisken 1:53.816 117.03

11 1 009 LMGT1 Bright/ Lamy/Sarrazin 1:55.918 114.90

12 5 12 LMP1 Lewis/ McMurry/Willman 1:56.015 114.81

13 2 007 LMGT1 Enge/ Kiesa/Turner 1:56.681 114.15

14 7 8 LMP2 Bach/ Cosmo/Matos 1:57.204 113.64

15 3 3 LMGT1 Fellows/ O'Connell/Papis 1:57.587 113.27

16 4 4 LMGT1 Gavin/ Beretta/Magnussen 1:57.621 113.24

17 5 26 LMGT1 Ruberti/ Babini/J.Davies 1:59.936 111.05

18 6 25 LMGT1 Weickardt/ Borcheller/TBA 2:02.985 108.30

19 1 62 LMGT2 Kelleners/ Melo/Lazzaro 2:03.867 107.53

20 2 23 LMGT2 Rockenfeller/ Graf/Rahal 2:03.903 107.50

21 3 50 LMGT2 Maxwell/ Brabham/Bourdais 2:03.908 107.49

22 4 31 LMGT2 J.Bergmeister/ T.Bergmeister/Jonsson 2:04.046 107.38

23 5 45 LMGT2 van Overbeek/ Fogarty/Lieb 2:04.222 107.22

24 6 51 LMGT2 Jeannette/ Milner/Janqueira 2:04.602 106.90

25 7 21 LMGT2 Auberlen/ Hand/James 2:05.036 106.52

26 8 44 LMGT2 Law/ Neiman/Pechnik 2:05.060 106.50

27 9 80 LMGT2 Tomlinson/ Dean/Kimber-Smith 2:05.141 106.44

28 10 22 LMGT2 Marks/ Sellers/Jensen 2:05.762 105.91

29 11 86 LMGT2 Bleekemolen/ Hezemans 2:05.908 105.79

30 12 85 LMGT2 Kox/ Crevels 2:05.922 105.78

31 13 55 LMGT2 Ehret/ Nielsen/Farnbacher 2:06.218 105.53

32 14 78 LMGT2 Pumpelly/ Thornton/Patterson 2:10.621 101.97

33 15 56 LMGT2 Vonka/ Casadei/McCormick 2:17.350 96.97

34 6 16 LMP1 Weaver/ Leitzinger/Wallace 2:40.841 82.81

35 16 79 LMGT2 Sugden/ Matthews/Henzler -.--- -

Fastest Drivers:

P1 Allan McNish

P2 Lucas Luhr

GT1Pedro Lamy

GT2Ralf Kelleners
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