Who do think is the greatest F1 driver

[Ferrari Tifosi]

So who gets your choice as the greatest in the greatest race car series.

Choices:
Alberto Ascari
Jimmy Clark
Juan-Manuel Fangio
Emerson Fittipaldi
Graham Hill
Stirling Moss
Niki Lauda
Tazio Nuvolari
Alain Prost
Michael Schumacher
Ayrton Senna
Jackie Stewart
Gilles Villeneuve
Nelson Piquet

I believe Ayrton Senna is the greatest. I seen him do some amazing things in a race car, that I've never seen anyone else do.

[ZeTurbo]

you just cant say who is better than who.... i mean can u really compare the kind of racing clark did with the speed and nerve wreking formula 1 senna exewlled in? its like 2 absolutely diffrent series...

but if i was to choose... no doubt about it Michael shumacher!
now... i know how many of u are gona say that he is only good cause ferrari has shit loads of money... but hey, williams had shitloads of money before and a far better car than the rest of the pack and nobody say squat! so spare me of the comments. no man With 6 world titles and evry single record (ok all but one of them left) beat can be said to be lucky!

[DarkPhenix]

i agree with you Ferrari Tiffosi, i like michael schumacher too but i voted ayrton senna..

[Matra et Alpine]

Originally Posted by Ferrari Tifosi

I believe Ayrton Senna is the greatest. I seen him do some amazing things in a race car, that I've never seen anyone else do.

Jim Clark was equally as good in the pinnacle of F1 of his day AND he was as good in saloons.
There are some great Shell films showing Clark racing the Lotus Cortina and four wheel drifting the car on power through every corner in drya and wet.
A genius.

[Ferrari Tifosi]

Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine

Jim Clark was equally as good in the pinnacle of F1 of his day AND he was as good in saloons.
There are some great Shell films showing Clark racing the Lotus Cortina and four wheel drifting the car on power through every corner in drya and wet.
A genius.

Jim Clark was truley a great driver.

Any idea on where I could find these videos of him?

[Cotterik]

Ayrton Senna because his character,his ability, his determination and his death changed Formula One forever. If he was still racing Michael Schumacher wouldnt be so widely accepted as F1's greatest driver. I agree with ZeTurbo; the amount of technology in the sport these days means that the driving skills required of today are a far cry from the likes of Juan-Manuel Fangio and Clark. Many say Fangio is the greatest, upto last year when his record was beaton for most Championship wins by Michael Schumacher. But if Fangio was racing in schumachers car, there would be no competition.

[Matra et Alpine]

Originally Posted by Cotterick

Ayrton Senna because his character,his ability, his determination and his death changed Formula One forever.

Jim Clark's was doubly tragic as he was racing in an F2 race on the day.
His was as big an impact in the world of racing ( perhaps more as he competed in more types of races anbd had a wqider fan base )

Somehow it seems worse when they lose their life NOT competing in the pinnacle - like Joey Dunlop, greatest bike road racer EVER.

[Matra et Alpine]

Originally Posted by Ferrari Tifosi

Jim Clark was truley a great driver.

Any idea on where I could find these videos of him?

Here's the man being as humble and unassuming as ever ... http://www.isanski.worldonline.co.uk/clark.avi

http://www2.eis.net.au/~bramwell/jim.htm is a good site with history and photos , but not those videos.

They occasionally turn up for sale at specialist motorsport shows in the UK.
I keep my eye out.
In the 50s-70s Shell and BP made many motorsport movies promoting their products.
They make great viewing.
UNFORTUNATELY, *I* don't have any in my collection and they are hard to get a hold of.

Friend has dropped me a line back, he remebered the name of the videos that we see at motorsport shows ....Check out http://www.32fullthrottle.freeserve.co.uk/single.htm and go down to "Motorfilms Quarterly vol 5", as an exmaple, it includes an Esso film on Clark.

[lfb666]

My vote goes to Ayrton Senna.
May he rest in peace, we won´t forget him.

[Ferrari Tifosi]

Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine

Here's the man being as humble and unassuming as ever ... http://www.isanski.worldonline.co.uk/clark.avi

http://www2.eis.net.au/~bramwell/jim.htm is a good site with history and photos , but not those videos.

They occasionally turn up for sale at specialist motorsport shows in the UK.
I keep my eye out.
In the 50s-70s Shell and BP made many motorsport movies promoting their products.
They make great viewing.
UNFORTUNATELY, *I* don't have any in my collection and they are hard to get a hold of.

Friend has dropped me a line back, he remebered the name of the videos that we see at motorsport shows ....Check out http://www.32fullthrottle.freeserve.co.uk/single.htm and go down to "Motorfilms Quarterly vol 5", as an exmaple, it includes an Esso film on Clark.

Thank you for the links, some very interesting information that I never knew of. I appreciate it.

[Matra et Alpine]

Originally Posted by Ferrari Tifosi

Thank you for the links, some very interesting information that I never knew of. I appreciate it.

No problem.

Your Andretti quote - If everything's under control, you're going too slow ~ reminded me of a Roger Clark, one of Britains great rally drivers. He used to walk over the prqactise forest roads AFTER he'd been through to look at the wheel tracks. He always beleived if a rally car rear wheel were ever in the sime lines as the front then he wasn't going fast enough !! The theory was that maximum braking on the loose meant pitching the car sidewasy while slowing to maximise grip and set up the corner. Maximum acceleration on exit would always mean the car was pitch sideways having applied power as early as possible in the corner. Roger Clark was one of the most spectacular rally drivers of the day. But a prime example of how technology changes thinfs. Current WRC cars aremuch faster driving the near-classic racing line and trying ther bets to keep the wheels all in line

[Falcon500]

Originally Posted by Cotterick

Ayrton Senna because his character.

all very good points other then that one...he was a strange person at best who believed it was his god given right to win...undoubtly one of the worlds best driveing talents...but indeed a very strange person....

[IBrake4Rainbows]

My Vote went to Gilles Villeneuve.

The greatest driver never to win the Championship. His tenure might have been short at the pinnacle of Motorsport, but his Impact was great, even though he went out with a grudge against his teammate, i think he deserves our thanks. He took Ferrari Racecars that were uncompetitive and Undriveable (According to James Hunt) and beat cars which were much, much more technologically advanced. although i happen to think if he didn't die he would have dominated like Shumi.

Heres to the Little Canadian that could.

Also I think if Micheal Shumacher was killed at Imola during the Next race, would we miss him as much? we knew he could be dominant, and probably had more left in his career, like Senna, but the man doesn't seem to have a personality, and is quite often a sore loser.

[Suka]

I voted for Jim Clark! He was superb!

[Cotterik]

Originally Posted by Falcon500

all very good points other then that one...he was a strange person at best who believed it was his god given right to win...undoubtly one of the worlds best driveing talents...but indeed a very strange person....

I agree but when i stated 'character' i meant his emotional attatchment to F1 itself and how differently he approached each race compared to other drivers, like running along the beach and lying on the pier exercising. Senna was also great fun to watch during close races when he used hand gestures towards other drivers, it filled you with adrenaline. Ive never seen anybody drive around a track so fast yet so relaxed..amazing